scorp
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Post by scorp on Nov 19, 2014 21:50:52 GMT -6
Seven power plays including a 5 on 3 for minute and a half and we could only manage 8 total shots. Houston we have a major problem. Any suggestions?
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Post by ipeecoy on Nov 19, 2014 23:05:20 GMT -6
Coaching change?
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Post by nofavorites on Nov 20, 2014 3:04:40 GMT -6
was hoping to watch, but good ole Neulion not working. go figure.
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Post by stars123 on Nov 20, 2014 7:22:16 GMT -6
Shoot more? If you don't shoot you won't score...
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Post by commonnnn on Nov 20, 2014 12:59:24 GMT -6
Melfort may have one of the most experienced and refined D lines in the league, this might not be the game to base that question off of. I have noticed that all around the league, most teams are having trouble scoring on the power play. Lots of scoresheets this year where there are 6 PP's and 0 goals scored.
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Post by swkot on Nov 20, 2014 15:01:49 GMT -6
Sadly, that is starting to look like the only way this team can take a step forward. I've been a Fiesel supporter turned fence sitter in recent years, and now I'm slowly being drawn to the other side of the fence. We are in a tough situation knowing that the team under Fiesel's direction has experienced a level of success much higher than the league average. But year after year, the guy who brings the team success is the same guy that holds them back. There have been a few seasons where his systems worked with the roster he had, but far too many that haven't. And those that haven't have been glaringly obvious. This is one of them. Fiesel talks about the players "getting where they need to be" and "doing the things they need to do". He's a coach with well over a decade of experience at the junior level, plus his time in European Pro, and I'm not at all convinced that he is capable of doing the things he needs to do or is where he needs to be. He should be better at evaluating what he has and adjusting accordingly to make use of their strengths. The system this year is becoming frustrating to watch. Particularly the 9.9% success rate on the power play. Just downright sad. He often speaks of grinding games out and wearing teams down. Their game plan looks to be based upon outworking the opposition down low and controlling the play in the corners. The team is doing a great job of that, but when you've got either 2 or all 3 of your forwards in the corner that never leaves anyone in front of the net to bang home the garbage. There was a 20 or 25 second series on the powerplay in the last home game against Kindersley where the forwards continued to cycle the puck in the corner. Low winger works the puck towards the point, drops it back to the corner and moves out front. Player with the puck moves higher in the zone, d-man puts a little pressure on and he dumps it for the forward who took his spot down low in the corner. The team did this 4 times in a row. They looked like they were trapped in a revolving door. Kindersley played the box, and only one of their players was having to put in a half hearted effort to contain the play. Melville has one of the hottest and slowest ice surfaces in the league. Anyone who has played in the HCUC knows the fatiguing effect it has on the game. Watch the forwards work the corners for a 45 second to one minute shift and the drag their arse to the bench looking like they are exhausted while the opposition has a 3 on 2 the other way and tell me this game plan they are employing is smart or efficient. A comment Fiesel made a few weeks back in his weekly interview with Benny was very d**ning. He spoke of the fact that in the 3 instances he had AP's playing with the team (Kreklewich, Sillinger, and his son - a junior C player), those players looked like one of the top 3 players on the ice and created a lot of opportunities offensively. The only thing those players have in common is Fiesel isn't their coach. They don't know the system, they just played instinctive hockey and did what comes natural to them. This alone should be an eye opener.
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Post by ipeecoy on Nov 27, 2014 19:59:53 GMT -6
Feisel picks his team, then he must be picking the wrong players for his system, or he cannot change his system to match his players. Agree, he should give up coaching and do the GM thing. Looks like the last few years, he has put his cards on the American boys.
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Post by stars123 on Nov 27, 2014 20:11:50 GMT -6
Who cares if he's banked on American Kids? Good on him, shows me that he wants to be competitive and gets the best players available.. If teams only went and recruited the remaining Saskatchewan kids, the league wouldn't be very competitive.. I like watching the best product I can.. If a kid is from Saskatchewan bc Alberta Nunavut or the states I don't care, I just want to watch the best hockey available..
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Post by swkot on Nov 27, 2014 21:10:49 GMT -6
Picking the wrong players for his system is a small part of it, the large part is his system really doesn't suit the majority of players at this level to begin with. It has seldom worked and sadly some of the most disappointing years were the most talent laden teams.
I don't think the focus on American scouting is as much of an issue as the fact that he's bringing in a lot of 19 year olds as plug and play type guys. They look ok as rookies, but there are a whole ton of 17 and 18 year old rookies in the league who look just as good or better with better upside having that extra year or 2 to peak.
The offense finally showed up against Nipawin the other day couple weak goals and a couple untimely screens by the d-men did them in. Officiating was beyond awful as well. Seeing Harbor tripped while breaking out of the zone in the high slot only to have the player pick up the puck, skate in and score was almost astonishing. But it was kind of par for the course, Murray and Shore both spent the game skating around looking as if they were both concussed immediately prior to the game.
Fans are losing interest in a hurry. I estimated/counted 325 against Flin Flon and 250 against Nipawin. That's 249 and 251 off of the posted numbers, so I assume my count to be pretty close and their base count is 250 + actual attendance.
Looks like Trevor Martin is back to the Blades full time. I fully expected that to happen. The Blades are a disaster and goaltending isn't their issue, but the way their GM has handled the goaltending roster is an issue in itself.
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Post by rm2188 on Nov 28, 2014 8:27:56 GMT -6
Picking the wrong players for his system is a small part of it, the large part is his system really doesn't suit the majority of players at this level to begin with. It has seldom worked I struggle believing it is his system the system is fine it's meant to spread the ice out. I can't speak for many of the years as I've only watched this year and last year but the problem is the players on the bottom refuse to buy in the top 6 forwards do fine for the most part but the bottom lines try and play a run and gun as opposed to keeping the puck low and playing physical. Last years was deeper yes but the whole team bought into their role and did their respective jobs.
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Post by swkot on Nov 28, 2014 18:08:30 GMT -6
If Feez is still here for another 10 years you might change your mind. It has happened before and it is happening again. Almost every season the team starts out near the top of the league and starts gradually dropping off as the season progresses. This year they were fortunate that everyone else in their division had a weeker start than they did, but with the way things are going lately I wouldn't be surprised if at least 2 of the teams are ahead of them come the end of the season.
Controlling the corners and spreading the ice out works great if your players have the vision and positioning to turn that control into scoring opportunities. Skilled guys like McNulty and Trudeau were able to control the corners with crafty play, quick reads and the ability to find back door goals. It worked well for them. Last year Walz had the quick feet and ability to dangle in tight areas and the system worked well for him. If the system works good for a few lines, great teach them the system and give them the ability to employ it when it works and otherwise utilize the players for what they do best.
It is hard for me to see how it is the 3rd and 4th lines bucking the system when there has been no consistency as to who is playing there. Aside from Kreklewich, Manson and Rosendale most of the others have been playing on the top 2 lines depending on what the roster looks like.
Regardless, I'm not sure this team's offensive composition really lends itself to a physical work the corners type of game. Aside from Harbor and Miller they are mostly lightweights.
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Post by ipeecoy on Nov 30, 2014 10:06:30 GMT -6
Last nights game against the dogs was the sixth time Feisel's group have failed to score, must be close to a record...
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