scorp
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Fiesel
Mar 23, 2015 10:21:52 GMT -6
Post by scorp on Mar 23, 2015 10:21:52 GMT -6
Well another SJHL season has come to a close for the Mils with still no SJHL title. I foresee no change in this as long as Fiesel is at the helm guiding this team. His system and style do not work. This team was offensively challenged all season and last night's game was a perfect example. In a win or go home game this team managed to score ZERO goals and was 0-8 on the power play. First 2 periods they managed a paltry 12 shots on net. Yes in the 3rd they managed 21 after the Hawks sat back to protect their 3-0 lead. All this team does is cycle the puck behind the net on the boards. Hardly ever is there a player out front to pass to and possibly score. Next season will be no different as what we are bringing back for players are less offensively talented then what we had this year. Not too mention an unproven goaltender. Time for a change Mils brain trust. Sweep the carpet clean and bring in new ideas. I realize he has a year left on his contract and he did lead the team to the playoffs. What a feat that was. Winning the Viterra division with a .500 record and an overall record of sub .500 when it is all said and done. Get off your hands executive go find someone else. Swallow the contract and dump Fiesel and his coaches. The fans deserve better and are tired of the same old movie. Fiesel has had more then ample opportunity to produce and has not been able to deliver. Time for a change,you can only watch a rerun so many times before you don't watch anymore.
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Fiesel
Mar 23, 2015 11:37:09 GMT -6
Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2015 11:37:09 GMT -6
When did Fiesel start in Melville? Who was there before that? How Long? When was the last time teh MKils won the league in reg season? Or in the playoffs?
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Fiesel
Mar 23, 2015 12:18:01 GMT -6
Post by scorp on Mar 23, 2015 12:18:01 GMT -6
Fiesel became the coach in 2003/2004.Took over for Steve Young 3/4 through the season when Young went to the WHL. Inherited a first place club who won the league and lost out in the first round with Fiesel at the reins. That season was the last time they won the league.Have never won it all in the playoffs. I believe Young was here for 5 or 6 seasons.
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Post by brewersdroop on Mar 23, 2015 15:22:49 GMT -6
The Mils have missed the playoffs twice in the last 17 seasons. IMHO this is outstanding and probably a model the rest of what the teams would like to have. That's all I have to say about it.
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Fiesel
Mar 23, 2015 18:33:33 GMT -6
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Post by rm2188 on Mar 23, 2015 18:33:33 GMT -6
I have defended fiesel this whole season and although I agree that he's had success his inability to change a system that wasn't working against a team playing a blatant trap in the playoffs was atrocious.
I also will say his tearing apart of the boys on the coaches show after game 5 and not accepting any blame or taking any accountability what's so ever was an embarrassment.
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Fiesel
Mar 23, 2015 19:11:28 GMT -6
Post by swkot on Mar 23, 2015 19:11:28 GMT -6
I have defended fiesel this whole season and although I agree that he's had success his inability to change a system that wasn't working against a team playing a blatant trap in the playoffs was atrocious. I also will say his tearing apart of the boys on the coaches show after game 5 and not accepting any blame or taking any accountability what's so ever was an embarrassment. Kudos to you for admitting to this. You've taken others and myself to task for our opinions, but I think you're starting to see the side of Fiesel that has a lot of us frustrated and conflicted. He says a lot of the right things. Speaks as though he's identified and is actively looking to solve problems. He's never been able to make the necessary adjustments when the going gets tough. The results are largely the same, and the excuses never change. Lamenting over injuries, suggesting buy in is a problem, or believing he has a roster of renegades doing their own thing. He always has and probably always will put forth a roster capable of competing and making the playoffs. The issue becomes that he is not the guy to direct that roster to a championship. It becomes more obvious as time goes on. And of course that becomes a sticking point: he's good enough to consistently make playoffs and kind of compete, he sells tickets and is keeping this team in the black. He's better than average, and good enough to get by. If our town had a slogan that would probably be it.
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Fiesel
Mar 23, 2015 19:52:34 GMT -6
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Post by rm2188 on Mar 23, 2015 19:52:34 GMT -6
I can definitely agree with what your saying.
I'd like to see a different set of eyes help him with the changes he needs help with perhaps Neil and Reeve are too quick to agree with him. He needs to be challenged by someone with in as his system does not match his players(and every other coach knows it) I'd also like to see someone win a draw for this team. They start every shift on d cause they loose every single draw.
Will he be willing to change his system and win or will he loose his job fighting to prove he's the smartest guy in the room? Great coaches change things up when the right time comes
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Fiesel
Mar 24, 2015 20:21:10 GMT -6
Post by milsfan on Mar 24, 2015 20:21:10 GMT -6
Fiesel is a good GM, but we need a coach that can adapt instead of preaching the only thing he knows (his "system"). I too was sick of watching them cycle the puck in the corner and pass the puck around in the offensive zone only to see it hop over someone's stick out of the zone. When they did get a body in front and shoot, they were successful. But all that cycling down low was garbage. The mindset for the whole season seemed defensive and not aggressive. The D could've pinched a little more or at least every once in a while to keep the other team honest. Come up and make a big hit at the blueline once in a while instead of letting the other team just walk in or jump up to cut off a pass. And the "system" only seemed to slow guys down and stunt any improvements. I don't think the Mils have many options except to ride out his contract (money-wise). I guess he's got one year left. Time to roll the dice, make some changes and win something.
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Fiesel
Mar 25, 2015 0:41:25 GMT -6
Post by brewersdroop on Mar 25, 2015 0:41:25 GMT -6
Mike Reagan must be worried about his job. He pretty much gutted Flin Flon and only got one round of playoff dough.At one point this season I think they were the favorites.
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Fiesel
Mar 25, 2015 1:02:13 GMT -6
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Post by swkot on Mar 25, 2015 1:02:13 GMT -6
Mike Reagan must be worried about his job. He pretty much gutted Flin Flon and only got one round of playoff dough.At one point this season I think they were the favorites. I've considered him to be the North's version of Fiesel for years.
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Fiesel
Mar 25, 2015 12:01:18 GMT -6
Post by swkot on Mar 25, 2015 12:01:18 GMT -6
I suppose slightly off topic, but the mention of Regan got the wheels spinning a bit. He got Rauckman and Masson out of the Buffalo deal last year, which has me wondering if the futures in the Trombley deal are at all significant. Pretty big turn around in Bonnyville since Trombley's acquisition. 12 wins, 28 losses and 1 OT/SO loss prior to January 10th, 14 wins, 3 losses and 5 OT/SO losses after. His regular season record is 12 wins, 3 losses, 4 OT/SO losses. Now into the semi-final with a record of 7 and 2.
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Fiesel
Mar 28, 2015 21:33:45 GMT -6
Post by scorp on Mar 28, 2015 21:33:45 GMT -6
I see Fiesel puts the blame on the players. They just don't buy in to his system (his words) according to the paper.. Same old story.Never changes and I imagine the executive will not make changes either. Too bad the fans of this team deserve better.
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Fiesel
Mar 28, 2015 21:59:09 GMT -6
Post by swkot on Mar 28, 2015 21:59:09 GMT -6
Assuming you mean the article/interview in the Advance, it was rather odd to say the least.
He's made lots of comments about how the players thought it was going to be easy and their spot is safe. If thats the case, I don't think the players are alone in that line of thought.
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Fiesel
Mar 28, 2015 22:31:34 GMT -6
Post by ipeecoy on Mar 28, 2015 22:31:34 GMT -6
I see Fiesel puts the blame on the players. They just don't buy in to his system (his words) according to the paper.. Same old story.Never changes and I imagine the executive will not make changes either. Too bad the fans of this team deserve better. The way I see it, couple things... 1 - You have the wrong players for the system ... 2 - You have the wrong system for the players ... So, the coach can't teach his system to the players when you have all year to teach it. As the old saying goes, when you point at someone, you three fingers pointing at yourself. Yes it's time for a change in Melville ...
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Fiesel
Mar 29, 2015 1:17:21 GMT -6
Post by stupendousman on Mar 29, 2015 1:17:21 GMT -6
I see Fiesel puts the blame on the players. They just don't buy in to his system (his words) according to the paper.. Same old story.Never changes and I imagine the executive will not make changes either. Too bad the fans of this team deserve better. The way I see it, couple things... 1 - You have the wrong players for the system ... 2 - You have the wrong system for the players ... So, the coach can't teach his system to the players when you have all year to teach it. As the old saying goes, when you point at someone, you three fingers pointing at yourself. Yes it's time for a change in Melville ... I'm not going to get into Fiesel, specifically, but I have to comment because this sort of thing drives me crazy. Any time you hear a Junior A coach/GM blame an earlier-than-desired end to the season on a lack of buy-in from the players or a culture change that needs to happen in the dressing room, that is always 100% the fault of the coach/GM. At the Midget AAA level or lower, a coach is pretty much stuck with his roster for the entire year. At the NHL level, someone else is deciding the coach's roster for him. But at this level . . . . if that's the reason your season ended the way it did, it's because it was your failure as a coach or your failure as a GM. Most of the coaches in the league are also the GMs -- and they're given 45 cards at the start of the year. That means they can make 20 changes to their roster in-season. If you've got a buy-in problem at the end of the year, it was your fault you didn't identify it sooner and make the necessary changes -- not to mention that it's part of your job description to inspire and motivate your players.
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Fiesel
Mar 29, 2015 19:33:52 GMT -6
Post by milsfan on Mar 29, 2015 19:33:52 GMT -6
I see Fiesel puts the blame on the players. They just don't buy in to his system (his words) according to the paper.. Same old story.Never changes and I imagine the executive will not make changes either. Too bad the fans of this team deserve better. The way I see it, couple things... 1 - You have the wrong players for the system ... 2 - You have the wrong system for the players ... So, the coach can't teach his system to the players when you have all year to teach it. As the old saying goes, when you point at someone, you three fingers pointing at yourself. Yes it's time for a change in Melville ... That's how I see it too. Plus why is it every year that he blames the players for not buying into the system? Maybe he's got the wrong players...but my opinion, life hands you lemons, make lemonade. Tailor the system to their strengths.
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