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Post by hockeygeek on Apr 14, 2015 9:22:10 GMT -6
tough to see one of the most entertaining coaches go
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Post by nofavorites on Apr 14, 2015 11:25:51 GMT -6
is there a release or story to read. or did you post because of inside scoop?
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Post by Firefighter68 on Apr 14, 2015 11:31:11 GMT -6
Its on the SJHL site
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Post by netyme on Apr 14, 2015 11:31:20 GMT -6
Says they are looking for coaching staff on the Kindersley web site
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Post by nofavorites on Apr 14, 2015 11:32:51 GMT -6
thanks. hadn't checked there.
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Post by stars123 on Apr 14, 2015 12:29:03 GMT -6
So does that mean Kindersley is going to ice a team next season? If he was nicer to people he may of still had a job.. He was rude and unprofessional..
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Post by netyme on Apr 14, 2015 13:05:05 GMT -6
I went to a wedding is Eston back in November, apparently he wasn't very well liked around town. Someone told me that they cut one of the local players that was also closely related to the Mayor, not a good move supposedly as most of the community was pissed.
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Post by netyme on Apr 14, 2015 13:06:50 GMT -6
This goes back to the Melfort situation, we have three local boys, all of which i know. I know for a fact that more people come out because of these boys, everyone wants to see local talent. I noticed during the regular season that the crowd at the palace cheered louder when one of the locals scored.
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Post by garbageman on Apr 14, 2015 13:20:57 GMT -6
Local talent or not Rocky was arrogent and not liked by the community, sponsors, and majority of the board, this reflected in the fan base, and how the players played for him down the stretch. He will not be missed, and my hope is that Kindersly can ice a great team with a solid community minded coach that can not just win regular season games, but have players who can bring out the best in the community by being involved off the ice, and want to win games for each other and the coach well into the playoffs. Best of luck to the Klippers.
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Post by stars123 on Apr 14, 2015 17:30:35 GMT -6
Was the "local" kid as good as the kid that made the team?? What people have to realize is Junior hockey is a business and coaches are paid to put the best product on the ice... Local players are great, but the locals have to be as good as the non local players.. If Melfort was in the league final with no local players would fans stop coming?? I would bet NO.. Fans want to see a winning product and some times the hard choices have to be made and the locals have to get cut.. I've seen locals that could barely skate backwards and would be lucky to get 1 goal the whole season.. He should make the team over a kid that's from say ontario that scores 20 goals consistently just because he's a local? These towns are small communities and the number of locals to draw from are few and far between.. you have to try and ice a competive team.. Local or not..
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Post by netyme on Apr 14, 2015 18:10:52 GMT -6
Was the "local" kid as good as the kid that made the team?? What people have to realize is Junior hockey is a business and coaches are paid to put the best product on the ice... Local players are great, but the locals have to be as good as the non local players.. If Melfort was in the league final with no local players would fans stop coming?? I would bet NO.. Fans want to see a winning product and some times the hard choices have to be made and the locals have to get cut.. I've seen locals that could barely skate backwards and would be lucky to get 1 goal the whole season.. He should make the team over a kid that's from say ontario that scores 20 goals consistently just because he's a local? These towns are small communities and the number of locals to draw from are few and far between.. you have to try and ice a competive team.. Local or not.. Say what you want stars123 but when i see half a section with signs that say "section C loves Aasen", it makes me think that having atleast 1 or 2 local players matter. Even the best teams have players that only have 7 or 8 points per season, why not make that kid a local? Hockey is a business but when you don't listen to the few needs that a tight knit community like Melfort demands, your business is going to go tits up. |
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Post by stars123 on Apr 14, 2015 18:25:31 GMT -6
There could as easily been a sign that said "section C loves mayan" could there not??
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2015 19:21:34 GMT -6
The Clippers are in the need of a Major overhaul, if a second place team in the regular season can't pull fans in they are doomed
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Post by netyme on Apr 14, 2015 19:39:33 GMT -6
There could as easily been a sign that said "section C loves mayan" could there not?? Don't know what your point is here really, are you saying that Melfort would rather have Aasen than Mayan? Of course they wouldn't but why bring in a player slightly better than him from Tajigistan just because he MIGHT get 3 or 4 more points??? As far as the Surrey Eagles (BCHL) having half their roster local, that is ridiculous. Look where they finished.. 9 wins. Probably not a lot of fans in the stands. But that 3 or 4 makes the difference in Melfort on top of this great team. |
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Post by swkot on Apr 14, 2015 19:48:28 GMT -6
Interesting, but inevitable. Does anyone know if he quit or was canned?
I don't see the Klippers being able to bring in an experienced Junior A coach. Fickle financial situation, and in all likelihood Rockie paid a heavy price for this year's shot at making a run and the roster will be further depleted.
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Post by netyme on Apr 14, 2015 20:10:08 GMT -6
No one can say for sure, but it sure seems like rocky sold the farm. Im going to derail this thread a bit but how does everyone think Melfort will fair next year? Hard to tell what the future will be
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Post by hockeygawd on Apr 14, 2015 20:34:52 GMT -6
I have been told by someone who is on the board board with an SJ team that Kindersley is a privately owned team now. Is there any truth to this? Rumor is that a local business owner bought them. Not sure if this is old news or not. Can anyone confirm?
I've also been told that several board members (all but the president) have quit in Nipawin and their is turmoil there. Can't get along with each other. Can anyone confirm this?
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Post by nofavorites on Apr 14, 2015 22:47:36 GMT -6
Say what you want stars123 but when i see half a section with signs that say "section C loves Aasen", it makes me think that having atleast 1 or 2 local players matter. Even the best teams have players that only have 7 or 8 points per season, why not make that kid a local? Hockey is a business but when you don't listen to the few needs that a tight knit community like Melfort demands, your business is going to go tits up.
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I totally disagree and must say whether you are local or not local but are a true fan you will decide who your favorite player is. Not all fans show up just because they are local. Some players have a way of winning the hearts of the fans because of the way they play. If you checked the fan poll that was conducted on the melfort website i do believe other players could challenge home town boy aasen as a favorite. Just saying.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2015 23:43:22 GMT -6
I have been told by someone who is on the board board with an SJ team that Kindersley is a privately owned team now. Is there any truth to this? Rumor is that a local business owner bought them. Not sure if this is old news or not. Can anyone confirm? I've also been told that several board members (all but the president) have quit in Nipawin and their is turmoil there. Can't get along with each other. Can anyone confirm this? When KK took the name Iron Horse Klippers I read it was a sponsorship deal for a set number of seasons. Can't remember the numbers. There was no mention of purchase in the article. Maybe there was a low key deal that never made it to the media. However if you got the info from a board member why do you try to confirm it here. Wouldn't the board member be more "in the know" than those behind the "avatar" --- but I have been told over and over that all SJ teams are community owned, with the exception of Yorkton, maybe,! Are the Terriers privately owned? Board in Nipawin - Can't say if there is turmoil but if I can correctly recall the yrs each went on the board 6 of the 10 are at the end of their 2 yr commitment and one other seldom attended due to other commitments. There are 4 or 5 commited to serve next season. I might be wrong but I think you got bad info - I hope you got bad info. From my "plank in the rink" the current board was light years ahead of last years board and things seemed to improve over the winter. |
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Post by oldtimer on Apr 15, 2015 8:39:50 GMT -6
Hey quit slammin Rocky,when most of you dont know all the details.Maybe he just quit cause,he felt,it was time to move on.He iced a pretty d**n goood team this winter and was easily in top half of the league.Stars 123 you're right,As far as local players,you have to be at least as good as the worst out of town player on your team.Then yes you should make it.Trevor Blevins is a hometown Melfort coach,but those 3 Melfort boys deserved to make the Mustangs.I've met Rockie on numerous occassions and he was polite and accommodating.He was passionate about his team!That can always lead to local differences of opinion.
What ever Rocky decides to do I wish him the best.
PS Rocky dont take the Western scouting job with the TO Leafs.(Now Thats a real mess!ż)
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Post by left4deadinflfl on Apr 15, 2015 9:00:48 GMT -6
Rocky is, and has been and always will be an opportunist. Cant say Rocky has built any kind of resume in the league.... perhaps Rocky thought he saw the writing on the wall in Kindersley...maybe he thinks the grass is greener elsewhere...maybe the board didn't like his style....I cantswee him getting any "assistant coach" position Maybe there is a Jr B team or a AA midget program that will take him on.....I don't see him moving up to the next level....maybe the end of his coaching career...but he had a decent team this year, he pulled a decent trade to make the team better....but not enough done in his tenure as head coach. Be interesting to see if he lands on his feet.
L4D
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Post by stars123 on Apr 15, 2015 12:10:06 GMT -6
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Post by netyme on Apr 15, 2015 12:27:38 GMT -6
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Post by garbageman on Apr 15, 2015 14:56:51 GMT -6
Rocky really sold the farm on that trade, good thing they won the league this year...........O wait, they actually lost out in the semi final. Good move for Estevan who is hosting Westerns next year.
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Post by netyme on Apr 15, 2015 15:18:01 GMT -6
Estevan must of been grinning after that deal, it didn't take a rocket scientist to see that the Bruins weren't going anywhere this year. Now I'm interested in what else Estevan has up their sleeve, they will need more than just those two to be a contender in the WCC next year. That being said I don't know their roster very well and only watched them twice
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Post by nofavorites on Apr 15, 2015 16:57:55 GMT -6
great for estevan, i think everyone new deroose was going back to estevan but to get laclare also, wow. just checked they will have 9 20 year olds on roster pending they all come back. one would have to think they might mirror mustangs and go with the older line-up. it does help, but hurts your young guys with development. its hard to sit out, some players might reconsider signing knowing it could hamper there playing time. although that depends on the coach's philosophy. definitely a couple of guys to build a roster around.
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Post by garbageman on Apr 16, 2015 8:30:46 GMT -6
Melfort is set to have more 20 year olds next year than they do now, I think with an addition of a top four D man the Mustangs are in great shape to have another big year, possibly move a 20 year old or two too Estevan for some 17-18 year old talent.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2015 9:06:05 GMT -6
To Rocky's credit he was always socialable and pleasant anytime I had to speak / work with him in an arena.
I thought he had pretty good numbers, always on the climb but not finishing the run too well. Was he fired or did he quit? If we knew that this thread would be much different.
Do coaches ask for contracts when their current deal is expiring or do boards offer contracts.
Doug Johnson and Rocky had similar histories, taking over poor teams and building them to contend but not go far in playoffs. Rocky is gone and Johnson resigns
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2015 9:06:53 GMT -6
OOOHHHH I mean re-signs - to a long deal most coaches would envy.
I guess the local board wasn't as appauled by his true comments on officiating as some of you were.
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Post by nofavorites on Apr 16, 2015 9:28:55 GMT -6
johnson is in a good situation, graduating only 4 20 year olds. i think with some minor tweeking they will be one of the contending teams for next year.
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