eggvan
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Post by eggvan on Jan 21, 2024 22:03:19 GMT -6
Looks like Dalton Mayes had to blow off a little steam up in Flin Flon tonight. Recorded a 2, a 10, a 5 minute major and a game misconduct. In baseball would that be like a single, a double, a triple and a home run? 🤣 Just coming off a 6 game suspension, how many games does he get this time? This guy is a train wreck and is going to hurt someone bad. League needs to send him a message… yea apparently youre not allowed to sucker punch someone square in the face, refs dont quite like that
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Post by swkot on Jan 21, 2024 22:56:56 GMT -6
Looks like Dalton Mayes had to blow off a little steam up in Flin Flon tonight. Recorded a 2, a 10, a 5 minute major and a game misconduct. In baseball would that be like a single, a double, a triple and a home run? 🤣 Just coming off a 6 game suspension, how many games does he get this time? This guy is a train wreck and is going to hurt someone bad. League needs to send him a message… Glad I'm not the only one thinking this. Commented the same thing watching him in person a number of times as he has a history of coming totally unhinged playing against the Mils. Absolute loose cannon, a liability to the Terriers and danger to everyone on the ice. Olauson made a huge mistake keeping him around.
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Post by swkot on Jan 23, 2024 13:32:54 GMT -6
I had to take a look back at Mayes' suspension history because I couldn't remember all of it off the top of my head.
January 8, 2023 The SJHL Department of Player Safety and Standard of Play has suspended Dalton Mayes of the Yorkton Terriers for 5 games for a Major – Check from Behind penalty in the January 7, 2023 game versus the Melville Millionaires. (Note: not sure why this was called CFB, it was a vicious running crosscheck to the face that probably should have been a match attempt to injure).
February 19, 2023 Yorkton Terriers, Dalton Mayes has been suspended for 2 games for a Game Misconduct, under rule 11.2(e)(ii) of the CJHL Rules and Guidelines, incurred during the February 18, 2023 game versus the Weyburn Red Wings.
March 16, 2023 The SJHL has suspended Dalton Mayes of the Yorkton Terriers for 20 games for Maltreatment stemming from the March 10, 2023 game versus the Humboldt Broncos. For taking responsibility for his actions, making a positive apology and restitution, the suspension has been reduced to 15 games.
October 15, 2023 Dalton Mayes of the Yorkton Terriers has been suspended for 1 game for a Game Misconduct penalty at the end of the game on October 13, 2023 versus the Melville Millionaires.
January 2, 2024 The SJHL Department of Player Safety and Standard of Play and Hockey Saskatchewan have suspended Dalton Mayes of the Yorkton Terriers for 5 games for Maltreatment during the December 30, 2023 game versus the Melville Millionaires. Mayes will also receive an additional one game suspension for accumulating his fifth ten-minute misconduct of the season.
So thus far he's had 34 games worth of suspensions in a season and a half, reduced to 29 "For taking responsibility for his actions, making a positive apology and restitution.". I had to look up what the February suspension was for last year and rule 11.2 e(ii) states "A Game Misconduct will be assessed to any team official who uses abusive conduct to the Referee or any person.". So 3 of his suspensions so far have been for abusive behavior.
The wild part to me is it does not appear he served his entire 15 game suspension from last year as I don't believe exhibition games count towards suspensions. He missed their last regular season game, 6 exhibition games and the first 5 regular season games this year. So 3 games short if exhibition counts, 9 games if they don't. Beyond that, if the league reduced his suspension by 5 games last year because he said sorry and cried some crocodile tears, should that 5 games not have been tacked on to this year's gross misconduct since he's a serial offender and clearly has not learned anything? It is a bit baffling that the SJHL seems to be content letting this pattern of behavior continue. Unless they are taking their time to get this one right since Yorkton doesn't play again for week and a half.
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Post by bomberville on Jan 23, 2024 13:42:42 GMT -6
Looks like the league has taken the Trudeau mentality. We’ll let you off until you cause serious damage.
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Post by toddpacker73 on Jan 25, 2024 9:17:29 GMT -6
Dustin Renas recently sent back from PA. He’s fast and physical. Will definitely help in the playoff chase.
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Post by elbows on Jan 25, 2024 10:34:22 GMT -6
and yet there is a college team down south that wants him there. what is wrong with the recruiter for that school. i am sure there is a more deserving kid out there.
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Post by Beaverstreet on Jan 25, 2024 13:06:35 GMT -6
and yet there is a college team down south that wants him there. what is wrong with the recruiter for that school. i am sure there is a more deserving kid out there. zero context given here
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eggvan
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Post by eggvan on Jan 25, 2024 21:39:32 GMT -6
and yet there is a college team down south that wants him there. what is wrong with the recruiter for that school. i am sure there is a more deserving kid out there. zero context given here gonna assume its referring to mayes, who is committed to university of wisconsin-river falls
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Post by tit4tat on Jan 27, 2024 15:45:35 GMT -6
gonna assume its referring to mayes, who is committed to university of wisconsin-river falls What the hell is going on in Yktn? Things must be serious for this release. Not the greatest message to have out there as ur recruiting and trying to sign guys for 24/25
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Post by blackandyellow on Jan 27, 2024 16:19:24 GMT -6
I think it’s exactly what it sounds like. A lot of these junior a teams are struggling. Weyburn almost lost their team a couple years ago. I know the bruins are super broke from hosting the centennial cup. Money is tight all around for a lot of teams.
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Post by confused on Jan 27, 2024 16:26:13 GMT -6
I realize every situation is unique but it is the boards job to prevent this type of thing from happening not respond to it after it happens. Being proactive to prevent things like this is much easier than being post active to Reduce its affect. I wish them well in their effort to rebuild the finances. Perhaps more work over the past few years would’ve eliminated the situation. Being on the board isn’t for yourself it’s supposed to be a sacrifice for the team. A lot of hard work I know but even in your own finances you shouldn’t be spending what you don’t have hoping for a miracle to show up someday later.
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Post by southguy on Jan 27, 2024 16:42:33 GMT -6
It starts by getting players from the area that are capable of playing junior, to draw more fans, 50/50 etc. a kid from USA, ont, etc ain’t bringing any fans
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Post by swkot on Jan 27, 2024 17:32:07 GMT -6
Yorkton's fan support has been abysmal for years. The fans were checked out as soon as they went into rebuild mode after winning the RBC. And they've had a very good assortment of fairly local area players on the team.
Team finances are very much tied to the quality of product a team can ice these days, so it kinda becomes a never ending cycle once one aspect starts to struggle.
Yorkton has a great minor hockey system, which should be feeding them a ton of talent but the unfortunate thing for the Terriers is many of those player end up being too good for Junior A or have been drawn elsewhere like Grady Hoffman.
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Post by pureel on Jan 27, 2024 20:20:54 GMT -6
The Terriers lost myself as a season ticket holder when they went to game day specific tickets. I had been a season ticket holder for 18 years bought the $100 lottery tickets, a square on the pool board, 50/50 tickets I would spend about a $1000 a year on the team with the cost of all of these and the money went directly to the team. When they changed their season ticket rules I was done. I told the president at that time with your new policy if you piss off ten guys like me this team loses 10K a year. His reply was every team in the league is doing it. Mr President you do what is best for your team because without fans you have no team and without a team you have no league. And I feel this is the problem with this entire league they don't care about their fans. Do I hope the Terriers fold no, would I help them out financially yes. I would pledge a $1000 to this team but before they get it Mr Neufeld better be handing in his resignation because the buck stops with him he is the president. He is the reason this team is in this mess, the post earlier is correct they should be proactive, get ahead of the problem not sit and wait and hope something happens
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Post by toddpacker73 on Jan 27, 2024 22:49:18 GMT -6
There are a few teams in the league with terrible attendance. Yorkton is definitely one of them. I actually don’t mind the press release they put out. They are hurting bad, no point in pretending otherwise. It definitely will hurt their recruiting but should help sell some lottery tickets. I know I’ll buy one if that’s in the works.
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Post by bomberville on Jan 27, 2024 22:52:23 GMT -6
The Terriers lost myself as a season ticket holder when they went to game day specific tickets. I had been a season ticket holder for 18 years bought the $100 lottery tickets, a square on the pool board, 50/50 tickets I would spend about a $1000 a year on the team with the cost of all of these and the money went directly to the team. When they changed their season ticket rules I was done. I told the president at that time with your new policy if you piss off ten guys like me this team loses 10K a year. His reply was every team in the league is doing it. Mr President you do what is best for your team because without fans you have no team and without a team you have no league. And I feel this is the problem with this entire league they don't care about their fans. Do I hope the Terriers fold no, would I help them out financially yes. I would pledge a $1000 to this team but before they get it Mr Neufeld better be handing in his resignation because the buck stops with him he is the president. He is the reason this team is in this mess, the post earlier is correct they should be proactive, get ahead of the problem not sit and wait and hope something happens Game day specific tickets are a loss for most clubs imo. To many families have other things going on to guarantee to make every game. Which makes it not worth buying the package and then you loose them all together when they have to pay at the gate. Bombers went this route years ago and I believe lost quite a few long time ticket holders. They corrected the issue with also offering a flex pack of I believe 20 tickets that could be used on any night. Maybe this is something Yorkton should look into.
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Post by oilerschampssoon on Jan 27, 2024 23:01:51 GMT -6
Chase the ace, sponsorships, selling 50/50s province wide, sponsorships, lots you can do. Get the kids working in elementary schools in town so kids have a connect with the team to get parents to take em. Dosnt have to be local kids, the kids that come to town just have to get engaged in the community
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Post by stars123 on Jan 27, 2024 23:02:31 GMT -6
Battlefords have flex passes, where you can use the ticket at any game.
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Post by confused on Jan 27, 2024 23:03:04 GMT -6
We live in a consumer driven world. If there are 10 ways to sell season tickets you should have 10 options to buy. I don’t personally agree with this philosophy but it is the way that our world works today and to be successful financially you need to offer the people what do people want to buy. If I want to buy 30 game passes and use them on the first night I should be able to if I want to buy one season ticket and share it with my wife so we can go to half the games I should be able to.If I want to buy 30 tickets and send my daughter and two friends to 10 games I should be able to. Not that I feel I’m entitled to do anything I want but if I’m offering to give you money to support your team for a set of tickets that works for me you should be willing to take my money. As I said I don’t particularly agree with that philosophy personally but it’s the world we live in and your hockey club needs my money.
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Post by stars123 on Jan 27, 2024 23:05:02 GMT -6
It starts by getting players from the area that are capable of playing junior, to draw more fans, 50/50 etc. a kid from USA, ont, etc ain’t bringing any fans To me it doesn’t matter where the kid is from.. I wanna watch a great product on ice. I’d rather see Kian Bell and Alexi Sylvestre play than a local kid that isn’t Junior A caliber but made the team because he’s local.
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Post by joker on Jan 27, 2024 23:20:12 GMT -6
It starts by getting players from the area that are capable of playing junior, to draw more fans, 50/50 etc. a kid from USA, ont, etc ain’t bringing any fans To me it doesn’t matter where the kid is from.. I wanna watch a great product on ice. I’d rather see Kian Bell and Alexi Sylvestre play than a local kid that isn’t Junior A caliber but made the team because he’s local. His post literally says “players from the area that are capable of playing junior”
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Post by confused on Jan 27, 2024 23:20:19 GMT -6
I also think you error if your entire philosophy is to fund the team on fan support. If the Hawks could sell every seat for walk up adult prices they would only get half their budget. And obviously that’s unrealistic. And expecting fans to buy game day items like beer popcorn shirts and programs to help the bottom line is a small addition. You need money from outside the arena. Farm projects and fishing tournaments don’t burden your fans. Comedy nights and decent raffles collect money from people who may never attend a game. You need money from people not interested in the daily scores.
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Post by stars123 on Jan 27, 2024 23:35:43 GMT -6
To me it doesn’t matter where the kid is from.. I wanna watch a great product on ice. I’d rather see Kian Bell and Alexi Sylvestre play than a local kid that isn’t Junior A caliber but made the team because he’s local. His post literally says “players from the area that are capable of playing junior” Of course every team wants local kids, but the reality is the ones that are capable of playing Junior A are few, and with the draft now, kids in surrounding areas could still be drafted by other teams. You need those kids from all over the place to be competitive.
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Post by myopinion on Jan 28, 2024 6:32:42 GMT -6
We live in a consumer driven world. If there are 10 ways to sell season tickets you should have 10 options to buy. I don’t personally agree with this philosophy but it is the way that our world works today and to be successful financially you need to offer the people what do people want to buy. If I want to buy 30 game passes and use them on the first night I should be able to if I want to buy one season ticket and share it with my wife so we can go to half the games I should be able to.If I want to buy 30 tickets and send my daughter and two friends to 10 games I should be able to. Not that I feel I’m entitled to do anything I want but if I’m offering to give you money to support your team for a set of tickets that works for me you should be willing to take my money. As I said I don’t particularly agree with that philosophy personally but it’s the world we live in and your hockey club needs my money. I agree that fans should have the option of how they want to buy tickets. Giving seat specific tickets for every game should have the most savings for fan as the team should recoup more of that with more chances to sell 50/50 and other promotions as well as having fans at “less” desirable games. Any number of “flex” passes should also be available at less of a discount and you take your chances on sitting exactly where you want. One thing I have always thought would be worth trying was for teams to work together a bit and give other team season ticket (seat specific) holders a bit of a discount on away games/ this would maybe have more fans following their team and create a little more atmosphere in buildings. The biggest thing is to get people into the habit of going to games and not watching something on tv. Every team needs more people realize Sj hockey games are usually very competitive and exciting.
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Post by tit4tat on Jan 28, 2024 9:11:09 GMT -6
No doubt Flohockey has had a little impact to gates. But i think its impact is minimal. I am skeptical that the casual fan would subscribe $150/yr to the streaming service. Maybe I am wrong.
I do watch alot of Flohockey...i dont live right in a community with an SJ team. I am surprised more teams dont run ads or do a better job with their streamed games. FF, HUM, EST are 3 SJ teams that do run ads and make more of an effort. Its another revenue stream that the majority of teams seem to ignore. Ive tuned into my share of Yorkton and Melville games...more games have tech issues than not ( audio not working for extended periods of time, etc).
Im surprised the league hasnt taken more of a lead and helping teams get this operating better and profitably. If the SJHL commish and marketing people arent leading the way on stuff like this.....helping teams tap into new revenue streams....what r they even doing?
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Post by joker on Jan 28, 2024 9:20:47 GMT -6
His post literally says “players from the area that are capable of playing junior” Of course every team wants local kids, but the reality is the ones that are capable of playing Junior A are few, and with the draft now, kids in surrounding areas could still be drafted by other teams. You need those kids from all over the place to be competitive. Yes nobody said the Yorkton Terriers should only be players from Yorkton but there is no denying that having local kids on your club can attract more fans, fundraising help and sponsorship
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Post by confused on Jan 28, 2024 13:46:24 GMT -6
I would not purchase Flo to watch hockey from my local arena and I’m not that interested in watching live hockey from another barn in the SJ. However Flo offers so much other than hockey. I have almost purchased Flo for their racing coverage at which time I may click a bit and stay home to watch hockey cause by that times it’s essential free. Hockey TV never had that lure.
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Post by Firefighter68 on Jan 28, 2024 13:50:53 GMT -6
Weyburn has a 30 punch ticket available that you use whenever and a 10 game punch pass or a designated game option
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Post by tit4tat on Jan 29, 2024 7:48:16 GMT -6
The Terriers release this AM and plan to dig out of this?
A $200 season ticket for 24/25.
They are going to burn thru 24/25 revenue to get to the finish line of the current season?What does that do to the 24/25 budget?
Seems shortsighted.
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Post by swkot on Jan 29, 2024 10:56:54 GMT -6
The Terriers release this AM and plan to dig out of this? A $200 season ticket for 24/25. They are going to burn thru 24/25 revenue to get to the finish line of the current season?What does that do to the 24/25 budget? Seems shortsighted. Rebuilding fan support is an important first step, and this is a good way to do it, but my initial reaction to this is the way they are going about it is a massive blunder. Especially when the news article the other day stated "There will be some very exciting hockey over the next couple of months, as long as we can keep the doors open.". Merely mentioning potentially not having enough cash to finish the season was a terrible choice of wording if you're going to use next year's season tickets to keep the doors open this season. What assurance is there that they'll have a team to watch with their season tickets next year? I was briefly contemplating a flex pack, just because I see enough games there. But unless there's some sort of assurances built in I'm not sure I'll bother.
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