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Post by myopinion on Apr 25, 2024 0:15:17 GMT -6
I hate to defend the stripes in this situation. The refs in this game probably did a decent job. They let a lot of stuff go both ways and the couple penalty they did call were deserved. It was the linesman that blew it and I don’t think the referees were in position to see it at game speed and other players in their line of sight. It was a guy in stripes that blew it but not the referee.
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Post by icedogg on Apr 25, 2024 0:15:42 GMT -6
These officials are being micromanaged to death! Most of them don’t have the confidence to call a decent game cause calls get reversed constantly! Teams pay for the appeals and are granted leniency for suspensions, unless you were Weyburn or estevan! The root of the problem is deeper unfortunately! Anyone have a clear clip of the offside Only clear shot I saw was on Max TV. It was a very obvious offside. Not sure if I can access it to video and post.
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Post by blevysboys on Apr 25, 2024 0:22:20 GMT -6
coach of the year is getting out coached again..just can’t get it done in the finals… lol he seemed 2 out coach your super coach last round. hows the new juicing regiment going by the way 💉💉💉💉
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Post by joker on Apr 25, 2024 0:23:49 GMT -6
Flin Flon is a great organization, Mike is a great coach and almost every team would be enviable of the success they’ve had for the last decade. But I find it hilarious to watch the collective meltdown in Manitoba after all the chest pumping all year and the fact the league made sure they kept their best player in the lineup for games 2&3 There is no conspiracy against the Bombers. The tinfoil is wrapped a little too tight A great coach wins championships…. In 18 seasons a great coach would win a championship…. Meh, semantics. Consistently a league power house, pumps more kids D1 than almost anybody, has created an enviable culture. Coaching is more than just wins and losses. He could apply for any junior job in the country try and be a finalist.
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Post by icedogg on Apr 25, 2024 0:24:39 GMT -6
Go to the SJHL on Facebook. There is video of the offside. Some good videos from different angles show it clearly
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Post by myopinion on Apr 25, 2024 0:26:25 GMT -6
It was a great game by both teams trading chances and goals all night that both deserved to win unfortunately it will be remembered by a mistake by someone not playing.
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Post by joker on Apr 25, 2024 0:29:17 GMT -6
It was a great game by both teams trading chances and goals all night that both deserved to win unfortunately it will be remembered by a mistake by someone not playing. Time to lace em up to ensure a travesty of this magnitude never happens again on your watch
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Post by icedogg on Apr 25, 2024 0:30:47 GMT -6
coach of the year is getting out coached again..just can’t get it done in the finals… lol he seemed 2 out coach your super coach last round. hows the new juicing regiment going by the way 💉💉💉💉 Are you still awake? Go to sleep. Your mom and dad have get up and go to work in the morning. Keep quiet in their basement 🤫
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Post by nolife1927 on Apr 25, 2024 0:32:42 GMT -6
[/quote] Meh, semantics. Consistently a league power house, pumps more kids D1 than almost anybody, has created an enviable culture. Coaching is more than just wins and losses. He could apply for any junior job in the country try and be a finalist. [/quote] Honestly I don't even think it's mikey. I believe he could win somewhere else but I truly believe this town is cursed....
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Post by icedogg on Apr 25, 2024 0:44:55 GMT -6
coach of the year is getting out coached again..just can’t get it done in the finals… I don’t think either of these guys are coach of the year material. I give all the credit to the players on both teams, lots of hard working stud players who know their jobs. Blevins and Reagan might as well be just opening the bench doors with the same result. Doug Johnson should have got the COTY. The camera work has been good, but enough with the coaches. Reagan looks like an angry little Lego Man, and Blevins looks like a miserable Mr. Potato Head that fell off the table. 0/10 in the personality department. 🙂
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Post by oilerschampssoon on Apr 25, 2024 1:13:37 GMT -6
This is how pathetic the officiating is in this league. Boarding in the first is not called and then they turn around and call boarding on the Bombers. To put the icing on the cake. Don’t call a foot offside to finish the game. Unbelievable. Ok now. We also got called for an unbelievable tripping call that led to a PP goal and shortly after had one of our players knocked unconscious by a cheap shot with no penalty at all. It’s just brutal that there have been so many significant blown calls, missed calls, calls made that never should be made, missed icings, missed offsides… it’s endless with this league. And every game it’s brutal for both teams even if the two teams are not affected equally. He hit his head on the ice wasn’t a cheap shot
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Post by newyorker on Apr 25, 2024 4:07:49 GMT -6
The Bumbler fans hoping for a beat up 7 game Melfort appearently have received a ride awakening.
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Post by mmfan on Apr 25, 2024 7:17:54 GMT -6
The reffing definitely need some adjustment no doubt. I hate to see it at any level of hockey. All year the whistle is out and come playoffs suddenly a new rule book appears and the whistle disappears. Off side, possibly. Watching live from my view point it was close. There was many, many calls that weren’t blown down. Everyone acts like this is new to the league, it’s been happening for years. Except now there’s FloSports and Sasktel max, and everyone can have their own instant replay.
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Post by sjguy47 on Apr 25, 2024 7:22:13 GMT -6
Tough end to a heck of a game... to play devil's advocate - there is 60 minutes (sometimes more) to score more goals than the other team. If a team can score 9 goals in a game and one goes to overtime, you're leaving your fate as a team up to chance. The liney is clearly blocked out by the FF defender at center ice, because he is standing too far off the line. Yes this is his fault, but in a game that moves as quick as it does, this is a root problem of the league office. There is no reason why the league can't get with the times and have reviewable situations with video feeds. It costs money, yes, but the game 5 that could have been would have likely paid for the entire league's worth of cameras and iPads.
$hit happens. Everyone with TV feed knows the linesperson was wrong thanks to replay, and likely he did himself too, but if they don't have the resources to get the correct call at the end of the day, is the on ice staff really the ones to blame? Its the same argument every year, "was it offside", "did the puck actually go in" etc.
Someone above said the staff is micromanaged to the point of not calling good games - that's absolutely the case. How can you expect consistent on ice officiating with a hundred officials if the league brass has to flip a coin for what flavor ice cream to order every other day between only 2 or 3 of them. Other Jr A leagues are in the fast lane while the SJ is on cruise at 80kmh hoping things just 'work out'
But as I said, if you lose a 7 game series because of a single call, did you deserve the championship to begin with?
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Post by thedagger on Apr 25, 2024 7:42:14 GMT -6
Officials do not lose games , this forum is so bananas on officials it's actually more embarrassing than a missed call . I believe it was offside , but everyone kept playing , nobody packed it in on the play. Make the save. Convert on some of your chances throughout the game. It's always in your hands every game to get the victory. Melfort deserves every bit of the 3-0 lead they have. No conspiracies , they are outplaying the Bombers. When you've spent the bulk of the year as the #1 team in Canada and boastfully telling everyone how great you are , and deservedly so , it's on you to find a way.
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Post by southguy on Apr 25, 2024 7:48:10 GMT -6
Tough end to a heck of a game... to play devil's advocate - there is 60 minutes (sometimes more) to score more goals than the other team. If a team can score 9 goals in a game and one goes to overtime, you're leaving your fate as a team up to chance. The liney is clearly blocked out by the FF defender at center ice, because he is standing too far off the line. Yes this is his fault, but in a game that moves as quick as it does, this is a root problem of the league office. There is no reason why the league can't get with the times and have reviewable situations with video feeds. It costs money, yes, but the game 5 that could have been would have likely paid for the entire league's worth of cameras and iPads. $hit happens. Everyone with TV feed knows the linesperson was wrong thanks to replay, and likely he did himself too, but if they don't have the resources to get the correct call at the end of the day, is the on ice staff really the ones to blame? Its the same argument every year, "was it offside", "did the puck actually go in" etc. Someone above said the staff is micromanaged to the point of not calling good games - that's absolutely the case. How can you expect consistent on ice officiating with a hundred officials if the league brass has to flip a coin for what flavor ice cream to order every other day between only 2 or 3 of them. Other Jr A leagues are in the fast lane while the SJ is on cruise at 80kmh hoping things just 'work out' But as I said, if you lose a 7 game series because of a single call, did you deserve the championship to begin with? very well said! yes it was off-side but that happens in every league, also the flon D man put it in his own net was an great game to watch for both teams fans
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Post by sjhockeyfan on Apr 25, 2024 7:55:28 GMT -6
Tough end to a heck of a game... to play devil's advocate - there is 60 minutes (sometimes more) to score more goals than the other team. If a team can score 9 goals in a game and one goes to overtime, you're leaving your fate as a team up to chance. The liney is clearly blocked out by the FF defender at center ice, because he is standing too far off the line. Yes this is his fault, but in a game that moves as quick as it does, this is a root problem of the league office. There is no reason why the league can't get with the times and have reviewable situations with video feeds. It costs money, yes, but the game 5 that could have been would have likely paid for the entire league's worth of cameras and iPads. $hit happens. Everyone with TV feed knows the linesperson was wrong thanks to replay, and likely he did himself too, but if they don't have the resources to get the correct call at the end of the day, is the on ice staff really the ones to blame? Its the same argument every year, "was it offside", "did the puck actually go in" etc. Someone above said the staff is micromanaged to the point of not calling good games - that's absolutely the case. How can you expect consistent on ice officiating with a hundred officials if the league brass has to flip a coin for what flavor ice cream to order every other day between only 2 or 3 of them. Other Jr A leagues are in the fast lane while the SJ is on cruise at 80kmh hoping things just 'work out' But as I said, if you lose a 7 game series because of a single call, did you deserve the championship to begin with? It’s times like these that I am thankful we are all perfect at our jobs. Otherwise someone might call us hypocrites!! The Bombers played from behind all night and really all 3 games of the series save 15 seconds in game 1 and a few minutes in game 2. Let’s not act surprised they are on the brink. One missed call by a linesman in double OT hasn’t been the difference in the series. Some of the bomber faithful should reread there comments after a questionable penalty call in triple OT in Game 3 of the Melfort/Broncos series!
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Post by yourewrong on Apr 25, 2024 8:32:12 GMT -6
Flin Flon should have spent that $40,000 on adult diapers for the babies on this forum instead of on the roster. Would end up with the same amount of titles.
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Post by joker on Apr 25, 2024 9:17:25 GMT -6
Flin Flon should have spent that $40,000 on adult diapers for the babies on this forum instead of on the roster. Would end up with the same amount of titles. Spicy 🥵 but true
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Post by stanger752 on Apr 25, 2024 9:39:06 GMT -6
Boy, anyone who has seen the replays will tell you that in real time, that would have been hard to call offside. maybe it was and maybe it wasn't. Crying about it is just a way to blame something other than their teams ability to close out a game. I think the blow to the head that wasn't called was much worse. That's dangerous to the player, and if that is called, chances are the Mustangs score at least 1 which then means no OT. Its been entertaining hockey, but it just looks like the Mustangs want it a little more and are willing to work hard enough to make it happen. Here's to one more, and Flin Flon keeping their sweep streak intact.
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Post by joker on Apr 25, 2024 9:52:29 GMT -6
As Bomber fans like to say
“The better team won”
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Post by milllsfan81 on Apr 25, 2024 9:57:00 GMT -6
Officials do not lose games , this forum is so bananas on officials it's actually more embarrassing than a missed call . I believe it was offside , but everyone kept playing , nobody packed it in on the play. Make the save. Convert on some of your chances throughout the game. It's always in your hands every game to get the victory. Melfort deserves every bit of the 3-0 lead they have. No conspiracies , they are outplaying the Bombers. When you've spent the bulk of the year as the #1 team in Canada and boastfully telling everyone how great you are , and deservedly so , it's on you to find a way. Well said. As the "#1 Team In Canada" for most of the year, there is no way Flin Flon should be down 3-0 in the series. Melfort has flat out out played them to this point and have had the better goal tender by far. It will be interesting to see if Flin Flon sticks with Laser-Hume in Game 4.
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Post by RockyBottom on Apr 25, 2024 9:57:46 GMT -6
A great coach wins championships…. In 18 seasons a great coach would win a championship…. Meh, semantics. Consistently a league power house, pumps more kids D1 than almost anybody, has created an enviable culture. Coaching is more than just wins and losses. He could apply for any junior job in the country try and be a finalist. He is a good scout and has great connections for acquiring talented players....he is not a good coach.....winning the talent that he brings in should have been easy this season. You are not a great coach until you win....
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Post by RockyBottom on Apr 25, 2024 9:59:33 GMT -6
bottom line.....a team as talented as the Bombers....with (ahem) 'goaltender of the year' and (ahem ahem) ' coach of the year' should not be in the position they are in right now whining about an offside call putting them down 3 games to none in the final.
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Post by bomberville on Apr 25, 2024 9:59:48 GMT -6
Boy, anyone who has seen the replays will tell you that in real time, that would have been hard to call offside. maybe it was and maybe it wasn't. Crying about it is just a way to blame something other than their teams ability to close out a game. I think the blow to the head that wasn't called was much worse. That's dangerous to the player, and if that is called, chances are the Mustangs score at least 1 which then means no OT. It’s been entertaining hockey, but it just looks like the Mustangs want it a little more and are willing to work hard enough to make it happen. Here's to one more, and Flin Flon keeping their sweep streak intact. If a linesman can’t tell that’s offside in real time. Then they shouldn’t be doing lines. Especially in the finals. Hundreds of fans at the game seen and yelled offside way before the replay came out. Definitely was not hard to see. Knowing the SJHL. That linesman will have arm bands on next game.
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Post by milllsfan81 on Apr 25, 2024 10:05:08 GMT -6
Boy, anyone who has seen the replays will tell you that in real time, that would have been hard to call offside. maybe it was and maybe it wasn't. Crying about it is just a way to blame something other than their teams ability to close out a game. I think the blow to the head that wasn't called was much worse. That's dangerous to the player, and if that is called, chances are the Mustangs score at least 1 which then means no OT. It’s been entertaining hockey, but it just looks like the Mustangs want it a little more and are willing to work hard enough to make it happen. Here's to one more, and Flin Flon keeping their sweep streak intact. If a linesman can’t tell that’s offside in real time. Then they shouldn’t be doing lines. Especially in the finals. Hundreds of fans at the game seen and yelled offside way before the replay came out. Definitely was not hard to see. Knowing the SJHL. That linesman will have arm bands on next game. Interestingly enough, lots of calls/breaks seem to go the Bombers way with officiating. Could be due to them talking to the officials all game complaining/potentially embellishing plays. Lies not being suspended for a 5 Minute Major Blow To The Head was interesting, along with the phantom 5 Minute Major for Spearing on Duguay in Flin Flon.
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Post by icedogg on Apr 25, 2024 10:24:58 GMT -6
A great coach wins championships…. In 18 seasons a great coach would win a championship…. Meh, semantics. Consistently a league power house, pumps more kids D1 than almost anybody, has created an enviable culture. Coaching is more than just wins and losses. He could apply for any junior job in the country try and be a finalist. He could coach any team in the country and be a finalist, but, he could never win a championship!
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Post by elbows on Apr 25, 2024 10:25:22 GMT -6
Get your hesd out of your ass. Clearly. A pitch fork to the nuts. Diirty play. Watch the clip
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Post by icedogg on Apr 25, 2024 10:32:46 GMT -6
bottom line.....a team as talented as the Bombers....with (ahem) 'goaltender of the year' and (ahem ahem) ' coach of the year' should not be in the position they are in right now whining about an offside call putting them down 3 games to none in the final. The bombers walked over the stars in the playoffs with a much more talented and bigger team. The mustangs are of equal talent and size. Now it comes down to coaching, making adjustments prior to the next game and on the fly as the game is played. I’m not a fan of either coach but Blevins is definitely outdoing Reagan in this department. Mike always brings in a ton of talented players, he just doesn’t know what to do with them.
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Post by joker on Apr 25, 2024 10:34:57 GMT -6
Boy, anyone who has seen the replays will tell you that in real time, that would have been hard to call offside. maybe it was and maybe it wasn't. Crying about it is just a way to blame something other than their teams ability to close out a game. I think the blow to the head that wasn't called was much worse. That's dangerous to the player, and if that is called, chances are the Mustangs score at least 1 which then means no OT. It’s been entertaining hockey, but it just looks like the Mustangs want it a little more and are willing to work hard enough to make it happen. Here's to one more, and Flin Flon keeping their sweep streak intact. If a linesman can’t tell that’s offside in real time. Then they shouldn’t be doing lines. Especially in the finals. Hundreds of fans at the game seen and yelled offside way before the replay came out. Definitely was not hard to see. Knowing the SJHL. That linesman will have arm bands on next game. Complain about quality of officials Then demand the worst one is replaced Who is replacing them? Do you think they aren’t sending the best they have available? This isn’t necessarily directed at you, but the general response on social media from Bomber fans seems to be that this ref be held accountable. Okay? Then what?
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