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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2015 21:42:14 GMT -6
I agree with you Al. However IMO i think the game should belong to the home team. I think the home team gets screwed over on 2 fronts. The team pays all the bills to make it happen then a radio station comes in and sells advertising on the product with little or no compensation to the home team. And the league takes the profits from the webcast and gives a trickle back to the team. Both - IMO - are robbery.
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Post by sjhlguy on Aug 31, 2015 12:15:45 GMT -6
I saw the Estevan Bruins are pretty active on Periscope. They did some stuff at games last year, but just clips or small videos. Not the whole game. I don't see a problem with that.
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Post by allanmontgomery on Aug 31, 2015 22:29:44 GMT -6
Are there any teams out there that make money off their radio broadcasts. Not the ones on the internet but on actual radio stations.
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Post by allanmontgomery on Sept 8, 2015 22:26:21 GMT -6
In case you have nothing to do Wednesday night and have your fast hockey account. We will do the game vs Humboldt as a test.
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Post by swkot on Sept 9, 2015 20:58:20 GMT -6
Can one no longer purchase on a game by game basis with fast hockey?
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Post by allanmontgomery on Sept 9, 2015 22:53:30 GMT -6
I am pretty sure it is an all or nothing setup. You pay by the month or by the year. You get all games on the fast Hockey platform not just your teams home or away games like before. Pros and cons to this I suppose. If you are energetic you can save and publish clips fairly easily. Here is our goal from tonight. sjhl.fasthockey.com/watch/?v=ImBEPRcr#.VfELv6OFMoA
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Post by mintonation on Sept 10, 2015 10:10:52 GMT -6
Is fast hockey broadcasting the exebition games....or is this based on each team if they want to broadcast it....new too this and need some info
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Post by voiceofthevoiceles on Sept 10, 2015 11:04:01 GMT -6
Is fast hockey broadcasting the exebition games....or is this based on each team if they want to broadcast it....new too this and need some info I do believe it is up to the team for exhibition games. Some teams may not even have the new fasthockey equipment even set up yet.
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Post by allanmontgomery on Sept 10, 2015 12:42:05 GMT -6
it's on a team by team basis. I was chomping at the bit to get it setup and going. Our new encoding computer showed up last Thursday.
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Post by swkot on Sept 10, 2015 13:54:43 GMT -6
it's on a team by team basis. I was chomping at the bit to get it setup and going. Our new encoding computer showed up last Thursday. Did you have any feedback at all? Better, worse? If fast hockey is going to be a subscription type deal, that's probably going to be a catch 22. For those that like to watch a lot of hockey, it might be a bargain. A casual user like myself can't justify it. I typically would have watched 4 or 5 games through the season and then whatever I could during playoffs, but now I'll likely only get a subscription in mid-February to follow playoffs and that's it.
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Post by backcheck on Sept 10, 2015 20:19:16 GMT -6
I watched a bit of the Melfort broadcast. It was near HD quality.
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Post by backcheck on Sept 10, 2015 20:20:14 GMT -6
Not to mention I didn't mind the outcome.
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Post by allanmontgomery on Sept 10, 2015 22:52:15 GMT -6
backcheck, we are here to please our viewers.
No I didn't hear from anyone, not sure how many watched. I was thinking there was a way to check the viewers but can't find it.
I see 233 have watched the one video clip I put up. Back when we used to put up the video clips on our site a goal or good save would get watched about 500 times (individual users) and a fight would get viewed close to 2000 times (individual users).
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Post by milsfan on Sept 17, 2015 19:54:27 GMT -6
Well, 0-1 on webcasts. Would've been nice to know the game wasn't going to be broadcasted, although I have no idea why. Not surprised though if it didn't work. Not like they had exhibition games to test it out.
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Post by allanmontgomery on Sept 17, 2015 20:04:37 GMT -6
I logged in to watch it along with 28 other people at the time I was there. It let us in so it was supposed to be broadcast. When I logged off to come back in it then said not scheduled to broadcast.
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Post by nofavorites on Sept 17, 2015 22:27:08 GMT -6
i paid to watch the game. yes i understand that some arenas have problems but come on with todays technology lets get with the times. people pay money for a service that is not being provided.
whoever is responsible for this service sjhl, fasthockey, local team. if you can't provide the service someone needs to be held accountable. people are paying for a service that they are not getting.
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Post by outsider on Sept 18, 2015 9:20:36 GMT -6
i paid to watch the game. yes i understand that some arenas have problems but come on with todays technology lets get with the times. people pay money for a service that is not being provided. whoever is responsible for this service sjhl, fasthockey, local team. if you can't provide the service someone needs to be held accountable. people are paying for a service that they are not getting. It will never be Fast Hockey's fault. Had to watch them for years, no better than the other guy. I realize most rinks have volunteers doing some of this, but maybe Fast Hockey should do some pre game trials and if it isn't working don't broadcast the game. Wish I could go to all games in person, then it wouldn't be a problem.
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Post by allanmontgomery on Sept 19, 2015 1:16:32 GMT -6
We received our encoder from Fasthockey on a Thursday. We took it to the rink and hooked it up that day and were disappointed we couldn't get a test done that day.
We turned it on the following Monday to do the test and did our first game that Wednesday. We were one of the last to get the encoder. I think the problem is that some Teams don't have someone to take control of the project and work on it. There was plenty of time to get tests done.
Tonight we did our first league game. We had an audio glitch to start the game which was my fault. Actually a piece of 20 year old equipment failed.
Fasthockey will provide the encoder and the spot to show your game. It is up to the Teams to provide a video and audio connection to the encoder. It is also the team's responsibility to provide a decent internet connection to get it out of the building. Not all teams have the internet connection to get the signal out. You can not share this internet connection with anything else.
I do know if you connect a decent camcorder directly to the encoder you will have a decent picture. Add the dedicated internet connection and you should have a decent webcast. Hopefully someday all the rinks will be able to get the internet connection they need. That is the key. Doing a webcast isn't rocket science.
BTW when I got home I was able to cut out the three goals we scored and save them on our website for viewing. It took awhile to do but we sure couldn't do that last year.
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Post by sjhldad on Sept 20, 2015 14:46:40 GMT -6
Please teach the crew in Flin Flon about web casts. Last nights game was brutal. No camera man for the first 6 minutes of the game.(nice view of the centre ice face off dot) Then the broadcast seemed like it was full of ghosts. And then it collapsed. If its not rocket science to put one of the games on the net then someone should let the crew in Flin Flon know this because they must have had an entire team from NASA up their. Its frustrating when you pay Fasthockey and expect to watch a game and it becomes such a circus.
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Post by reddragons on Sept 20, 2015 16:10:19 GMT -6
Did you ever think that the people behind the camera are some of the healthy scratches? With it being Flin Flon's home opener, every player got suited up to be introduced for the pregame ceremony. As soon as they got off the ice the game would've started, so I'm guessing it would've taken 6 minutes to get undressed, showered, and dressed back up in dress clothes. As for the feed I would assume it would've been internet problems because the online scoring only had info for the first half of the 1st period all night, it was just recently updated today by the looks of things.
Signed, NASA
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Post by player99 on Sept 20, 2015 16:20:29 GMT -6
If it is the players doing the camera work then the team needs to be smart enough to have someone help them out while they are busy getting undressed, people are paying for these broadcasts so it shouldn't be too much to ask for the teams to put in a little effort and use a little common sense
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2015 22:01:11 GMT -6
So we've ALL (including me) had our " time". Who has volunteered to help their local club this year? Of course most of us want to be anonymous so I am not asking for names. So lets answer this. How much time have you donated to your team this season? Maybe the guy with all the internet brains is too busy selling popcorn cause no one else will do it. Not to put Al M on the spot but he seems to have it worked out, has shared ideas on this forum. Maybe a local fan could foot the bill to get him into your rink to set it up! At this time of year we could be a bit more gracious to the new volnteers who have stepped up to help in the new season. The FF problem sure seemed to be techincal not people errors.
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Post by allanmontgomery on Sept 20, 2015 22:22:39 GMT -6
We can't blame Neulion anymore for a crappy webcast. We can't actually blame Fasthockey for it either. We make our own beds. Some or maybe more than expected can't get the internet connection that they need. I know we have paid for a separate 2mb up internet feed that is dedicated to the webcast alone. We are lucky as we could have it installed. I sure hope it is available to everyone before long.
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Post by swkot on Sept 21, 2015 6:17:43 GMT -6
I've kind of figured that there are problems related to the webcasts that are largely due to a lack of designated individuals to set up and run the equipment. I believe in Melville it is the scratched players running it as well. There'd probably be improvements in consistency.
I'm guessing in some aspects the issue probably stems from the league telling the teams that they have to offer webcasts. You can tell who the teams are that had individuals passionate about media prior to the league offering webcasts. It's another strain on volunteers/executive and at least around here most are middle aged and don't strike me as having a keen interest in techie type stuff. That leaves a lot of teams doing the bare minimum to offer the webcast as mandated by the league.
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Post by Statman on Sept 21, 2015 8:54:38 GMT -6
La Ronge has a dedicated 5MB up 640KB down for the webcast and with the exception of the audio for the first part of the game (which was resolved throughout the webcast) the webcast went very smooth. Learning the process on support and setup with FastHockey will take time and the "tweaking" not "Twerking" will be something that will take a few games to get under control. Melfort's webcasts are the Gold Standard, not only for the league, but probably for Junior Hockey in Canada. Other teams are doing the bare minimum because to setup the webcasts with a higher bandwidth cost extra money and the fact that the teams get so little profit from these webcasts leads me to think that is why they do the bare minimum.
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Post by allanmontgomery on Sept 21, 2015 10:38:26 GMT -6
Statman, I believe you meant 5mb Download and 640kb upload. I would venture a guess that is what is probably the connection being used for most teams. Thank you for the compliment, it is a work in progress.
Anyone watch a game on their phone yet ?
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Post by netyme on Sept 21, 2015 11:01:42 GMT -6
Statman, I believe you meant 5mb Download and 640kb upload. I would venture a guess that is what is probably the connection being used for most teams. Thank you for the compliment, it is a work in progress. Anyone watch a game on their phone yet ? I watched the laronge game on my phone, for the most part, I thought it was fairly smooth.
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Post by Statman on Sept 21, 2015 11:23:08 GMT -6
Statman, I believe you meant 5mb Download and 640kb upload. I would venture a guess that is what is probably the connection being used for most teams. Thank you for the compliment, it is a work in progress. Anyone watch a game on their phone yet ? My bad Al. Yes 5MB down 640up. Over lunch, I tested my iPad and actually a very good and easy process to watch games.
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Post by sjhlguy on Sept 29, 2015 20:18:02 GMT -6
I haven't seen a Melfort broadcast yet, but so far Estevan's is looking really good. They have their radio broadcast directly fed to it so there is audio (albeit it could be adjusted a little bit but seemed to get better as the game went on last week) and they have screen effects as well to show the current score of the game. I have heard good things about Melfort's so I will check them out for their next home game, but that's what I have noticed so far. La Ronge does a pretty good job for what they have and Weyburn's is pretty good too. Like I said, still haven't seen every teams broadcast yet, i will continue to look around.
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Post by nofavorites on Oct 3, 2015 9:20:39 GMT -6
does anyone know if any of the showcase games are going to be on fasthockey.
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