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Post by rovingsjreportr on Nov 26, 2014 7:34:29 GMT -6
I see that the game between Melfort and Weyburn was unavailable due to technical difficulties, for the people in the know, ie: Melfort, was that a local issue or a Neulion issue? If it's the latter, I'm sick and tired of this second class website. I can't watch it on my Chrome Book because the viewer isn't supported on it, then when I do watch it, it Buffers the entire game.
I've heard from people that watched the WHL on Neulion that it was the same. Now they can say all they want about local infrastructure (internet access, video equipment etc). but when you're watching games from Multimillion dollar arenas with Multimillion dollar franchises, I'm thinking it's possibly the website.
Add that with the fact that I stream movies and hockey games from other leagues from other Webcast servers and have ZERO issues.
Figure it out SJHL!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2014 17:41:07 GMT -6
Sorry for any problems out of Melfort for the last couple games. I was away in Mexico for my daughter's wedding. We thought we had things covered for me being gone. My fault as I should have had better training in place.
BTW it was hard to come from +30 to -36. I guess karma taught me a lesson for the problems with the webcasts as We had to change a tire. Note to self put winter clothes back in the truck. :-)
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Post by oilersrock28 on Dec 3, 2014 11:05:26 GMT -6
Did sjhl fans know that fast hockey covers 9/10 cjhl leagues in Canada not to mention hockey Canada events/ushl/nahl. Guess which league is the only one with neulion? If I was wanting to scout the sjhl things certainly aren't made any easier or if I was a player who wanted more info on this league I would think it to be a scrub league from the way it is packaged or not packaged/communicated via website/awful team websites some with little or no info on them for years. The only league with neulion etc
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Post by rm2188 on Dec 7, 2014 17:16:47 GMT -6
Not even a score sheet for the mils game?
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Post by swkot on Dec 7, 2014 17:59:41 GMT -6
Late start due to a power outage.
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Post by nofavorites on Aug 7, 2015 8:18:46 GMT -6
does anyone know who will be broadcasting games this year? neulion or is fasthockey taking over?
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Post by eyeonthegame on Aug 7, 2015 9:30:04 GMT -6
FastHockey is doing the games this year.
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Post by netyme on Aug 7, 2015 9:35:07 GMT -6
FastHockey is doing the games this year. WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO FINALLY |
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Post by Statman on Aug 17, 2015 15:43:55 GMT -6
Don't get all excited with Fast Hockey. They require a minimum 2MB upload speed for their service and a lot of teams do not or cannot get that service without spending $300-$400/month on their internet service.
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Post by Beaverstreet on Aug 18, 2015 8:21:37 GMT -6
SaskTels price.  These town can get this speed with SaskTel, didn't look at other providers Battleford Canora Emerald Park Esterhazy Estevan
HumboldtKamsack KindersleyLloydminster Martensville Meadow Lake Melfort
MelvilleMoose Jaw NipawinNorth BattlefordPilot Butte Prince Albert Regina Rosetown Saskatoon Swift Current Tisdale Warman WeyburnWhite City Yorkton |
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Post by outsider on Aug 18, 2015 10:47:44 GMT -6
And if telecast goes out at any time, it will not be Fast Hockey's fault ever. Always the team broadcasting, therefore no refund ever.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2015 12:28:44 GMT -6
And if telecast goes out at any time, it will not be Fast Hockey's fault ever. Always the team broadcasting, therefore no refund ever. Yes very true, however I have used both Fast Hockey and Neulion and Fast Hockey is far superior |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2015 13:24:54 GMT -6
We have been given free games after paying for broadcasts that don't work. But that was more that they didn't start or were not available, not because they dropped of after they started.
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Post by flinflon123 on Aug 18, 2015 15:19:32 GMT -6
It looks a lot different when you run into a business. A business (like a rink), gets a "guaranteed" service, or something similar to that. Where it says "up to 25Mbps", this is for the home, or average consumer. Business typically gets "25Mbps special curcuit, with 5Mbps upload" or whatever the deal is.
From my expertise the communities that WILL NOT have a problem are; Estevan, Weyburn, Humboldt, Kindersley, Melville, Melfort, North Battleford, Yorkton, and La Ronge (if they switch providers!) Flin Flon, Nipawin, and Notre Dame are not going to meet the criteria.
So I came up with my own solution..... Get either provider (sasktel or access comm where available) to become a better corporate sponsor, if they already aren't, and provide proper connection to make webcasts available in all of these rinks, Flin Flon excluded.
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Post by Beaverstreet on Aug 18, 2015 16:13:28 GMT -6
It looks a lot different when you run into a business. A business (like a rink), gets a "guaranteed" service, or something similar to that. Where it says "up to 25Mbps", this is for the home, or average consumer. Business typically gets "25Mbps special curcuit, with 5Mbps upload" or whatever the deal is. From my expertise the communities that WILL NOT have a problem are; Estevan, Weyburn, Humboldt, Kindersley, Melville, Melfort, North Battleford, Yorkton, and La Ronge (if they switch providers!) Flin Flon, Nipawin, and Notre Dame are not going to meet the criteria. So I came up with my own solution..... Get either provider (sasktel or access comm where available) to become a better corporate sponsor, if they already aren't, and provide proper connection to make webcasts available in all of these rinks, Flin Flon excluded. Your incorrect with Nipawin, they will have good HS service, La Ronge is the one in trouble |
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Post by allanmontgomery on Aug 18, 2015 22:00:27 GMT -6
Notre dame shouldn't have a problem as they have the fibre school connection there. Maybe it's not into the rink.
I believe Nipawin had a problem with the Sask-tel line upgrade not being close enough to the rink. Hopefully that is fixed. We have spent extra for awhile now to have a dedicated internet account for the webcasts as it won't matter if there is a 2mb upload account if it is being shared with the 50/50 machines, the office use and wifi in the building.
I don't expect things to be perfect this season. There will be growing pains. But I am pretty sure we will be happy with the change. I am :-)
When the MJHL switched there were teams that didn't have the 2mb upload speed and they made due with what they had to work with.
I know I am already at the rink getting ready. I can't wait for the new encoder to show up so we can get some testing done. :-)
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Post by netyme on Aug 18, 2015 22:16:09 GMT -6
Notre dame shouldn't have a problem as they have the fibre school connection there. Maybe it's not into the rink. I believe Nipawin had a problem with the Sask-tel line upgrade not being close enough to the rink. Hopefully that is fixed. We have spent extra for awhile now to have a dedicated internet account for the webcasts as it won't matter if there is a 2mb upload account if it is being shared with the 50/50 machines, the office use and wifi in the building. I don't expect things to be perfect this season. There will be growing pains. But I am pretty sure we will be happy with the change. I am :-) When the MJHL switched there were teams that didn't have the 2mb upload speed and they made due with what they had to work with. I know I am already at the rink getting ready. I can't wait for the new encoder to show up so we can get some testing done. :-) We should get you some some jumbo Trons in the palace for you to play with Allan, I think you could have a lot of fun with something like what ft Mac has! |
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Post by stars123 on Aug 18, 2015 22:42:12 GMT -6
I believe the WHL uses Neulion.. And the NHL uses Neulion as well I believe.. If the speeds weren't fast enough in the rinks it wouldn't matter what provider you use.
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Post by allanmontgomery on Aug 18, 2015 23:23:11 GMT -6
Stars123 you are correct. A good solid dedicated internet connection is needed. If you have that then a camcorder connected to the encoder will give a watchable signal. I can remember when we first started the webcasts about 8 or 9 years ago we had 700 people watch a playoff game (for free) at a whopping 240k and they were happy as  to watch it. Now expectations are high and so are costs. I would be more than happy to have what Estevan has. |
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Post by netyme on Aug 18, 2015 23:37:42 GMT -6
How much would a clock like Estevans cost??
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Post by rovingsjreportr on Aug 19, 2015 4:56:34 GMT -6
WHL does use Neulion, but according to people who watch it, it's the same problems as we have. Now we're talking multi-million dollar facilities with high speeds and fiber optics and they still get glitches, stopped games and the constant re-booting. And we can't all blame it on our personal connections because I can sure binge watch Friends on Netflix, but I can't watch a game in Melfort?
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Post by stars123 on Aug 19, 2015 6:26:48 GMT -6
I just find it weird that the NHL and WHL, use it.. You'd think if it was no good, 2 of the best leagues in the world would not be using it. I would of thought they would of dropped it a long time ago.. I just looked it up. The WHL,OHL,QMJHL use Neulion, the NHL uses Neulion.. Looks like the NHL and MLB have dropped Neulion as well and are going with another provider.. www.cantechletter.com/2015/08/neulion-plunges-as-rumours-of-nhl-deal-with-mlb-surface/ |
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Post by sjhlguy on Aug 19, 2015 10:51:37 GMT -6
I think I read that theirs wasn't all too bad, but not sure of an exact number. Maybe like 100k? I could be way off.
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Post by netyme on Aug 19, 2015 11:48:36 GMT -6
I think I read that theirs wasn't all too bad, but not sure of an exact number. Maybe like 100k? I could be way off. I heard Melforts was 48k when they built the palace, and it was donated by RBC. I would assume Estevans would be more but with technology now a days who knows |
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Post by rookie on Aug 19, 2015 16:50:30 GMT -6
I think I read that theirs wasn't all too bad, but not sure of an exact number. Maybe like 100k? I could be way off. I heard Melforts was 48k when they built the palace, and it was donated by RBC. I would assume Estevans would be more but with technology now a days who knows I thought it was more like $500K |
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Post by netyme on Aug 19, 2015 16:52:34 GMT -6
I heard Melforts was 48k when they built the palace, and it was donated by RBC. I would assume Estevans would be more but with technology now a days who knows I thought it was more like $500K That seems more on point, I wonder how much a screen to hang up somewhere would cost |
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Post by Beaverstreet on Aug 20, 2015 8:24:32 GMT -6
I thought it was more like $500K That seems more on point, I wonder how much a screen to hang up somewhere would cost Get me a white bedspread, a leatherman, some CAT5 wire, some rope, and a projector, i'm sure I can figure something workable out |
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Post by stars123 on Aug 29, 2015 21:23:06 GMT -6
is periscope allowed at SJHL games? saw a brief broadcast with Okotokos against drumheller yesterday and they were using periscope. I was suprised by the quality. All it takes is Twitter, phone, and a person to broadcast... And it's free.. The broadcast never stopped once and it wasn't choppy. I did only watch it for a few mins so hard to say how the whole game was.
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Post by swkot on Aug 29, 2015 23:17:03 GMT -6
I had to look periscope up, hadn't heard of it before. I would think it could be done unless the rink has rules against the taping of live events.
At least from a legal standpoint I would imagine it follows the same rules as photography and would be ok, but somebody like Al might be able to chime in with more info.
I'm sure if it was the teams themselves doing it the league would probably not take too kindly to that.
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Post by allanmontgomery on Aug 30, 2015 20:32:40 GMT -6
The webcasts are a league thing and they wouldn't allow anyone to come into the rink and broadcast the game. You may get away with it for an exhibition game but all pictures and video from league games are owned by the league. They don't chase down people for using pictures or taping the game but if you were using for profit or taking profit away from the league it would be stopped.
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