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Post by hockeynut18 on Nov 20, 2018 21:38:02 GMT -6
Spending money on players? Yes they have paid for some players but I also see them with a 16 and 17 yr old dmen that they recruited and traded for , what about the two kids from yorkton 17, 18 yr olds and rookies in the leagues that Nathan has put up against the top lines in the sjhl as shutdown ? They were drafted or recruited, Camrud, patter , smith only returning players, Edmonds given up in expansion draft along with cecconi I believe.foster was traded for spedafora who they recruited. I agree if they weren’t in first place this not a topic , but now all of a sudden it’s about the money, they have no kids that have returned from whl unlike sometimes that people were expecting to do well, maybe it’s just a bunch of guys that work well together and play hard.
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Post by Big City Guy on Nov 21, 2018 0:09:02 GMT -6
I think rather than give so much credit to the current regime, we still should honor Darcy and the work he did in scouting.
Listed Poncelet, Girolami, Arnold
Drafted McIntyre, Lacombe, Ramsey
Traded for in 2017 Olsen
That's a Saskatchewan list class that any team would be happy with. So that, including the 3 returning players, is 10 of "Darcy's guys". The cupboard wasn't totally bare. One error to the last poster - Ramsey came to them from Kamloops of the WHL.
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Post by hockeynut18 on Nov 21, 2018 4:28:28 GMT -6
Yes totally agree, Darcy along with Jason Neville
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Post by hockeynut18 on Nov 21, 2018 4:30:22 GMT -6
Also, Ramsey came from Saskatoon aaa was in Kamloops camp, I believe he was also drafted by them , not sure thoigh
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2018 6:21:10 GMT -6
Spending money on players? Yes they have paid for some players but I also see them with a 16 and 17 yr old dmen that they recruited and traded for , what about the two kids from yorkton 17, 18 yr olds and rookies in the leagues that Nathan has put up against the top lines in the sjhl as shutdown ? They were drafted or recruited, Camrud, patter , smith only returning players, Edmonds given up in expansion draft along with cecconi I believe.foster was traded for spedafora who they recruited. I agree if they weren’t in first place this not a topic , but now all of a sudden it’s about the money, they have no kids that have returned from whl unlike sometimes that people were expecting to do well, maybe it’s just a bunch of guys that work well together and play hard. Actually your wrong, it is about the money. I personally donated along with probably 99% of the posters on here for the victims of that accident. Through go fund me which I understand is going all to the players, and that’s good. But the extra fundraising that took place was sold to us as extra funds for those victims. Then we are hearing that a lot of those donations are being used for hockey ops, sorry but that’s not what they were intended for. You say kids were recruited, I agree but there was also more than enough higher pdf’s that other teams can’t afford. In honesty I get pretty upset when players that were drafted were dealt, when they would have in all likelihood stayed with there teams. It’s a outsiders view, but I know where I wanted my donations to go to, and that hasn’t happened, so no I’m not grouchy about broncos in first, I’m grouchy cause I was mislead where the funds were going.
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Post by hockeynut18 on Nov 21, 2018 6:54:47 GMT -6
What drafted players were traded? Expansion draft players?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2018 7:00:33 GMT -6
What drafted players were traded? Expansion draft players? ally, hounsel, sergeant dropped, and now maybe you can answer the question about why the funds weren't dispersed to the players? And also the families who were involved.
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Post by bomberville on Nov 21, 2018 7:45:25 GMT -6
Every organization in this league works hard to build their respective clubs. Competitively and financially. Every team gave to help the Broncos rebuild from the most tragic situation anyone could imagine. The outcome? A financial powerhouse for decades to come. I sure hope this doesn’t change the parity in the league. The biggest reason this league is so fun to watch as this definitely wasn’t the reason I donated. Also Humboldt wouldn’t of been as strong. They owed some top end players from trades which I had no problem seeing wiped clean. Not now from what I’m seeing and hearing unfold.
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Post by Big City Guy on Nov 21, 2018 8:58:28 GMT -6
I think the futures trades should have had a one year grace period.
Ramsey started out the regular season in Kamloops and was sent back. The Broncos are likely hiding him a little because he very well could have rights traded and end up back in the Dub.
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Post by confused on Nov 21, 2018 17:02:34 GMT -6
I said it in April and I think it is still true. The only expenses dealt to the organization due to the crash was maybe an extra office staff to help deal with things. The Bronco organization did not need a dollar and should not have let people assume that falsehood. Nobody would have given 5 cents to the Broncos on April 5th and therefore to me it is simple that every dollar given after that date was for the passengers and families. With the exception of money tagged for hockey ops at the desire of the donor.
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Post by thegreat1 on Nov 22, 2018 14:53:25 GMT -6
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Post by rovingsjreportr on Nov 23, 2018 12:48:38 GMT -6
How are we feeling with this article? I know how I feel. I'm offended by that quote that the SJHL did nothing for the team. I also feel it's a little bit of bragging that they state that they can go out and basically buy any player that then can with donations. I'm not happy about this....I know things needed to be done, the SJHL teams were the first to come forward and say they wanted to help out. Now they're getting sand kicked in their face. I know that the quotes are from someone that's not with the club anymore, but come on.
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Post by klipperman on Nov 23, 2018 13:38:52 GMT -6
How are we feeling with this article? I know how I feel. I'm offended by that quote that the SJHL did nothing for the team. I also feel it's a little bit of bragging that they state that they can go out and basically buy any player that then can with donations. I'm not happy about this....I know things needed to be done, the SJHL teams were the first to come forward and say they wanted to help out. Now they're getting sand kicked in their face. I know that the quotes are from someone that's not with the club anymore, but come on. The first obvious innacuracy in the story, is that teams didn’t protect their top nine, the protected nine players. Cecconi was a top nine player in Kindersley,
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2018 13:44:52 GMT -6
With 4 million of donations in the “humboldt strong account” they can buy anything they want. But ask a parent who had a son in that bus what they think of this??? They are keeping funds that were targeted to be given to the victims of that crash. And now those funds may not leave the broncos team hands....sounds like this may make for some feuding!!!! And rightfully so, those donations were for the victims!!!!
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Post by hockeynut18 on Nov 23, 2018 15:28:54 GMT -6
Wow hound you seem to have a lot of hate towards broncos, guess u should have been gm and told them how to do it, the story was opinion of Frank Seravalli and let’s see how everyone twists this, hopefully money thing gets sorted out but when I see there a big increase in fans.... maybe hound has the opinion it involve money too
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Post by madmax0527 on Nov 23, 2018 15:47:00 GMT -6
With 4 million of donations in the “humboldt strong account” they can buy anything they want. But ask a parent who had a son in that bus what they think of this??? They are keeping funds that were targeted to be given to the victims of that crash. And now those funds may not leave the broncos team hands....sounds like this may make for some feuding!!!! And rightfully so, those donations were for the victims!!!! A board has been set up for Humboldt Strong fund. The fund is there to support last years team and families. If someone wants to access funds they apply to the board and are awarded funds according to need and the guidelines that have been set. No $ has been or will be spent on Current Bronco team operations. Geez! So much misinformation and outright falsehoods. Keep your fingers off the keyboard if you’re going to spew garbage.
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Post by confused on Nov 23, 2018 15:48:45 GMT -6
You can't pass 4 million around a board room for very long before some if it will go missing. Especially when 99% of the income is not documented. There is gonna be a lot of crap over this before it is done.
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Post by madmax0527 on Nov 23, 2018 16:00:15 GMT -6
You can't pass 4 million around a board room for varying before some if it will go missing. Especially when 99% of the income is not documented. There is gonna be a lot of crap over this before it is done. All money is documented and accounted for. Decisions on how money is spent will be transparent. It can't be any other way. How would you like to be part of a board like this without ensuring there are safeguards in place? They are going to be answerable for every decision they make. To suggest money will be hidden or diverted to the team is ludicrous.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2018 16:56:33 GMT -6
With 4 million of donations in the “humboldt strong account” they can buy anything they want. But ask a parent who had a son in that bus what they think of this??? They are keeping funds that were targeted to be given to the victims of that crash. And now those funds may not leave the broncos team hands....sounds like this may make for some feuding!!!! And rightfully so, those donations were for the victims!!!! A board has been set up for Humboldt Strong fund. The fund is there to support last years team and families. If someone wants to access funds they apply to the board and are awarded funds according to need and the guidelines that have been set. No $ has been or will be spent on Current Bronco team operations. Geez! So much misinformation and outright falsehoods. Keep your fingers off the keyboard if you’re going to spew garbage. [ Sorry should be split 29 ways and move on.....it’s theirs!
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Post by confused on Nov 23, 2018 17:42:38 GMT -6
Agreeing with hound. If every dollar is documented please tell us if Mrs Linda Smith made a donation of more or less than $31.09. You can't. They can't they wont.
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Post by thegreat1 on Nov 23, 2018 18:46:02 GMT -6
With 4 million of donations in the “humboldt strong account” they can buy anything they want. But ask a parent who had a son in that bus what they think of this??? They are keeping funds that were targeted to be given to the victims of that crash. And now those funds may not leave the broncos team hands....sounds like this may make for some feuding!!!! And rightfully so, those donations were for the victims!!!! A board has been set up for Humboldt Strong fund. The fund is there to support last years team and families. If someone wants to access funds they apply to the board and are awarded funds according to need and the guidelines that have been set. No $ has been or will be spent on Current Bronco team operations. Geez! So much misinformation and outright falsehoods. Keep your fingers off the keyboard if you’re going to spew garbage. The article even says they spent money from it on players.
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Post by hockeynut18 on Nov 23, 2018 18:59:46 GMT -6
No they spent money on players who hasn’t? Look at nipawin most of the kids theybrought in on trade forPDF , don’t u see u ing about them, and do you know how much money spent on each player, u guys quick to say spent money so how much spent on each player??? And hound just chirps in to stir up doesn’t have a clue on what talking about , proved that in his comments about ally sarge and hounsell
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Post by pastafarian on Nov 23, 2018 20:52:10 GMT -6
Haven't posted on the forums in a while b/c I was having a hard time seeing keyboard warriors trash kids characters on the Stars forum. This thread is pretty gross too with the cast of usuals.
The Broncos last year financials (easy to find) showed they received about $1.5 million in donations which gave them a surplus of about $1.6 million dollars. The year before they ran a $47k deficit. But let's just go around saying the money is unaccounted for and making accusations cause it's the internet.
I gave to both the GoFundme, which I understood was going to the players and the family and a little bit to the organization directly so they could rebuild. I know how the CJHL works so I understood that meant PDFs, jerseys, hiring a new coach, trainer, etc. They needed money to do that so that's why they received separate donations, from me anyway. I knew what I was giving in each case and I'm sure lots of people did. If you didn't then it's probably better that you don't have that money because you seem fairly irresponsible with your cash sending money to things you don't know about.
I agree with Hockeynut re: Hound.
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Post by stangmang on Nov 23, 2018 22:58:23 GMT -6
This thread has turned seriously gross. Seems to me like a LOT of accusations that are not proven from some people who don’t have a clue what they’re talking about. It has been explained that a lot of money was donated directly to the organization, and I don’t think the Broncos have received anything from the huge gofundme. That gofundme money is being held completely separately from the Broncos club. Now if you want to criticize that some of the families were not getting money from it in a timely fashion, go for it. But please stop talking like the Broncos have $14 million to spend on PDFs. And the person who just assumes the Board in charge of distribution of the gofundme funds will be pilfering some of it needs to give their head a shake. Those financials will be looked at by an auditor, they will require authorized signatures on cheques, etc, these guys aren’t going to be getting away with stealing money from it. DISGUSTING.
And no matter how much they can spend on players, I can’t imagine how much work it’s been to find good players that obviously play well together to eat the results they’ve gotten. No matter how much money you have putting together a team of 20 new players and being competitive is a very great feat in my opinion. It’s not like they can just go get every good CJHL player for a PDF.
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Post by nofavorites on Nov 24, 2018 10:28:17 GMT -6
money aside I am a bit surprised that some of the players for the Humboldt draft that are not playing have not found there way on other teams.
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Post by walleye18 on Nov 24, 2018 11:11:07 GMT -6
money aside I am a bit surprised that some of the players for the Humboldt draft that are not playing have not found there way on other teams. I think Ally is playing junior B in Regina, and Sargent is playing in the SIJHL with Dryden.
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Post by jetsfan29 on Nov 24, 2018 11:30:39 GMT -6
money aside I am a bit surprised that some of the players for the Humboldt draft that are not playing have not found there way on other teams. I think Ally is playing junior B in Regina, and Sargent is playing in the SIJHL with Dryden. Hey guys let’s settle down on here about the Broncos. Unless I knew what was going on behind the scenes between the management and board I will never criticize their decisions. I’m sure there’s votes and discussions had before actions took place. As for the roster, the supplemental draft selections for the players were made before a new coach and GM were hired. It’s hard for a coach to put a plan together if he’s never seen the players before. The staff that selected the players is no longer part of the club. Give Humboldt credit, they are off to a spectacular start of the season and are using the resources available to them to do what they can. They have the ability to potentially become the Portage’s, Brook’s, Penticton’s of the SJHL as their story is known worldwide and players would be interested in playing there, more coverage leads to better sales, marketing, recruiting etc. I am just going to continue to show my love and support to the Broncos and their season.
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Post by president on Nov 27, 2018 15:26:40 GMT -6
we will never forget that fateful day when we lost so many young men but we also should remember the young Hawk who died on the ice at Humboldt
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Post by klipperman on Nov 30, 2018 10:12:16 GMT -6
Bronco fans, how was the game last night. Didn’t get to watch, Radio station in Kindersley won’t do broadcast.
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Post by RockyBottom on Nov 30, 2018 10:27:36 GMT -6
Bronco fans, how was the game last night. Didn’t get to watch, Radio station in Kindersley won’t do broadcast. Neutral fan.....but I drove from Saskatoon to the game. Kindersley's forwards look really good. There defense made some weird decisions (mostly on the offensive side of things that could / would hurt them in most games)....except for Close. He stole this the save he made in the third period was unbelievable. Double pad stack snag with his glove. As athletic a save as you will see at this level.
Humboldt was buzzing for the first half of the gmae but the frustration grew as the night went on. It as very evident in Camrud. He was not on his game. He was slow getting up when hit, he was whining to the refs all the time....30 seconds left in the game and a puck scramble...Camrud rips the legs out from under the Klipper that is already battling with another Bronco and proceeds to crosscheck him at least three times on the way down and while he was on the ice.
less than 5 seconds left in the game and Cecconi takes out Close. not cool....game is over and you were beat by a great goalie. Hopefully something more is done about it. It was clear all night Humboldt was after Close...they ran into him on multiple occassions. I thought the game was officiated quite well except I would like to see Close protected better than he was. Harsh penalties early would have solved it for the night. Camrud intentionally went into close early in the game and the officials chose to even up the penalties when the Klippers guy roughed it up with Camrud. Should have been a power play for Kindersley and wasn't.....give the guy that came to Close's aid a penalty as well if you want bu make sure that the additional roughing goes to Camrud too. You don't get to hit a goalie and not go on the penalty kill.
Classless finish by Humboldt.....they are better than that.....but they are starting to look they are entitled to win (similar to Melfort last year and was their undoing) and not the hardworking team that the Broncos were to start the year.
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