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Post by klipperman on Dec 28, 2018 12:59:07 GMT -6
I would be very sad to learn that a player chased a man from the coaching position and from the tiny bit I have seen of Oystrick I doubt he ran scared by Drew. Who knows why or what caused this but let's hope if it is a personal thing he can get it dealt with. However after talking with more than one person about mid season acquisitions I would have to agree with klipperman and say to yourewrong that, "you're wrong ". It was always going to be difficult for the Broncos this year. Oystrick came with fairly good credentials, but the rebuild was huge. Everyone wants to see the Broncos back after the tragedy, but maybe they would have been better off building with the young players they started the season with. I must admit I was confused with the changes at board level prior to the season, which may or may not have been an issue. Whatever the outcome, it’s not good for the Bronco family.
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Post by icedogg on Dec 28, 2018 13:07:57 GMT -6
Sometimes a guy just knows when “ he doesn’t need this s••t” and it’s time to pack up! Tough situation for anyone to come into.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2018 13:43:51 GMT -6
sounds like he was the problem....the coach that is!
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Post by Beaverstreet on Dec 28, 2018 13:52:43 GMT -6
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Post by hank30 on Dec 28, 2018 13:55:19 GMT -6
I don’t think players were the problems, when players are the problem they are traded away or let go. Just hope he gets the help he needs. It would be tough with all the pressure that was placed on the Bronco organization this season.
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Post by klipperman on Dec 28, 2018 13:57:44 GMT -6
I don’t think players were the problems, when players are the problem they are traded away or let go. Just hope he gets the help he needs. It would be tough with all the pressure that was placed on the Bronco organization this season. That depends who’s running the team, sometimes the board want to be too hands on.
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Post by klipperman on Dec 28, 2018 14:01:07 GMT -6
sounds like he was the problem....the coach that is! Time will tell, I doubt it though, the problem usually goes deeper. As with Larry Wintoniak a few years ago. It wasn’t him, it was a few players an assistant coach, and some board members who got to close to them. Almost finished the Klippers off.
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Post by left4deadinflfl on Dec 28, 2018 14:04:32 GMT -6
Not good....sorry to hear this.... the organization deserves better. I would not lay blame cause that just looks ugly. Finding blame won’t help the team or the fans. Give up the speculation, and wish the team The best going forward. Happy New Year. L4D
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2018 14:33:29 GMT -6
Not good....sorry to hear this.... the organization deserves better. I would not lay blame cause that just looks ugly. Finding blame won’t help the team or the fans. Give up the speculation, and wish the team The best going forward. Happy New Year. L4D Why do we need to hide the truth? If its the coach then he should be held accountable, if it was players then the same punishment. But when we hide it. and it happens again we kind of shrug our shoulders. Only in sports!!
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Post by dumpchasecelebrate on Dec 28, 2018 14:56:11 GMT -6
If its personal issues, we have no business pushing to know the details..if its hockey related the organisation has its obligations to speak on it. I would be curious to know what shape they are in for cards, with the amount of players brought in this year, they should be just about maxed out. That may have something to do with moving problems out, you still need to replace..
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Post by nofavorites on Dec 28, 2018 15:00:40 GMT -6
Not good....sorry to hear this.... the organization deserves better. I would not lay blame cause that just looks ugly. Finding blame won’t help the team or the fans. Give up the speculation, and wish the team The best going forward. Happy New Year. L4D Why do we need to hide the truth? If its the coach then he should be held accountable, if it was players then the same punishment. But when we hide it. and it happens again we kind of shrug our shoulders. Only in sports!! exactly!!
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Post by sjhockeyfan on Dec 28, 2018 15:55:47 GMT -6
Tough timing for a coaching change. Jan 10 deadline looming and all. Although another poster brought up a good point. They may only have a card or possibly two left. I see the news release is up on every sports and news outlet in the country, except the sjhl site.
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Post by walleye18 on Dec 28, 2018 15:57:57 GMT -6
I have heard from a reliable source that Oystrick was told to step down so basically he was let go by the organization.
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Post by yourewrong on Dec 28, 2018 18:04:31 GMT -6
Warkentine somehow, demanded a trade to Humboldt, indoctrinated the board, forced a coach to party, got him fired, will presumably take over as GM/President/Mayor. Kid may have a negative locker room rep but hes very efficient and probably should be a Russian hacker.
There is hardly ever a single instance where a coach with a winning record in the SJ leaves midseason without some bad info coming out down the road.
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Post by left4deadinflfl on Dec 28, 2018 19:47:12 GMT -6
Why do we need to hide the truth? If its the coach then he should be held accountable, if it was players then the same punishment. But when we hide it. and it happens again we kind of shrug our shoulders. Only in sports!! exactly!! the whole sports world is looking at this... careers and reputations maybe affected, a whole town and an entire league will be scrutinized, laying blame at this time is bush league...the organization and league requires support. Belly up and wish them luck, the truth will be known soon enuff, it’s not time for a public flogging of coaches or players. L4D
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2018 22:01:47 GMT -6
Why do we need to hide the truth? If its the coach then he should be held accountable, if it was players then the same punishment. But when we hide it. and it happens again we kind of shrug our shoulders. Only in sports!! exactly!! the whole sports world is looking at this... careers and reputations maybe affected, a whole town and an entire league will be scrutinized, laying blame at this time is bush league...the organization and league requires support. Belly up and wish them luck, the truth will be known soon enuff, it’s not time for a public flogging of coaches or players. L4D Last year stars coach was roasted on this forum, he lost his job! Why? It was free game on brandon heck, and he was dismissed for less. It’s just a opinion, I actually hope that broncos find a good replacement cause they deserve it.
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Post by confused on Dec 28, 2018 23:26:51 GMT -6
An honest question here but why do the Broncos deserve a decent replacement? What have they done to deserve it any more than the Mils or Wings? Or do they all deserve a decent replacement? In my book, IF the organisation sent him walking after a half season of success in less than typical circumstances,after moving his family etc etc they DO NOT deserve a decent replacement. They deserve what is left over after the 50 applicants found jobs. I'm not saying it was this guy or that guy but until we know the facts it's pretty hard to say poor Broncos. Maybe Oystrick deserves a better organisation to work for.
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Post by thegreat1 on Dec 28, 2018 23:34:28 GMT -6
Think they wish would’ve hired Dean Brockman yet?
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Post by Jacques LeCoque Grande on Dec 29, 2018 9:11:28 GMT -6
So Oystrick takes over a team after the most heartbreaking and tragic of circumstances. Then they have an amazing start and once they finally struggle he's gone? Something seems very fishy to me. After reading about this for a day, I can't help but wonder if there was some meddling behind the scenes from the board. Coaches just don't quit because of players. Warkentin is as toxic as they come, but he wouldn't chase Oystrick away. Just abruptly parting ways gives every indication that the coach and his bosses were feuding and when things like that happen......
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Post by klipperman on Dec 29, 2018 9:28:26 GMT -6
So Oystrick takes over a team after the most heartbreaking and tragic of circumstances. Then they have an amazing start and once they finally struggle he's gone? Something seems very fishy to me. After reading about this for a day, I can't help but wonder if there was some meddling behind the scenes from the board. Coaches just don't quit because of players. Warkentin is as toxic as they come, but he wouldn't chase Oystrick away. Just abruptly parting ways gives every indication that the coach and his bosses were feuding and when things like that happen...... Bronco resignations? More than just Oysterick. Geringer resigns, 3 Board members stand down, Assistant GM resigns. All in the first 4 months of the 18/19 season. Does the problem go deeper?
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Post by swkot on Dec 29, 2018 9:51:39 GMT -6
So Oystrick takes over a team after the most heartbreaking and tragic of circumstances. Then they have an amazing start and once they finally struggle he's gone? Something seems very fishy to me. After reading about this for a day, I can't help but wonder if there was some meddling behind the scenes from the board. Coaches just don't quit because of players. Warkentin is as toxic as they come, but he wouldn't chase Oystrick away. Just abruptly parting ways gives every indication that the coach and his bosses were feuding and when things like that happen...... Taking in the entirety of what has been discussed, not just here but on various other forms of social media, I am getting the impression that this has very little to do with wins and losses and a lot to do with Oystrick's behavior.
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Post by thegreat1 on Dec 29, 2018 10:31:19 GMT -6
So Oystrick takes over a team after the most heartbreaking and tragic of circumstances. Then they have an amazing start and once they finally struggle he's gone? Something seems very fishy to me. After reading about this for a day, I can't help but wonder if there was some meddling behind the scenes from the board. Coaches just don't quit because of players. Warkentin is as toxic as they come, but he wouldn't chase Oystrick away. Just abruptly parting ways gives every indication that the coach and his bosses were feuding and when things like that happen...... Taking in the entirety of what has been discussed, not just here but on various other forms of social media, I am getting the impression that this has very little to do with wins and losses and a lot to do with Oystrick's behavior. SWKOT has it 100% correct. There were several off ice issues. I know of at least three. I will let it be at that. He was forced to resign or be fired.
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Post by Big City Guy on Dec 29, 2018 10:36:58 GMT -6
I've heard the same as you guys. The code of conduct was broken.
I'm appalled this morning by the statements on Twitter by that communications consultant that took the money and ran - Tammy Robert. She's attacking billets and the entire community. Pretty gross!!
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Post by swkot on Dec 29, 2018 10:45:08 GMT -6
I'm appalled this morning by the statements on Twitter by that communications consultant that took the money and ran - Tammy Robert. She's attacking billets and the entire community. Pretty gross!! I'll agree with half of this. What she is saying is not a fair representation of the current situation. But as far as the rest of it, is there anything out there other than Gormley's smear campaign? I read both halves of what was out there a while back and I'm not sure the picture Gormley painted was accurate.
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Post by Big City Guy on Dec 29, 2018 11:05:22 GMT -6
She lost my respect after she called a Bronco player a coward because he said he didn't want to do an interview the night of the home opener.
Oystrick didn't rebuild this team himself and every poster on this forum is smart enough to know that.
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Post by stars123 on Dec 29, 2018 11:15:53 GMT -6
She lost my respect after she called a Bronco player a coward because he said he didn't want to do an interview the night of the home opener. Oystrick didn't rebuild this team himself and every poster on this forum is smart enough to know that. I don’t agree.. so who helped rebuild this team? Other teams gave players up and he traded most of them.. was it the go fund me people that donated the money that helped rebuild?
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Post by nofavorites on Dec 29, 2018 11:19:22 GMT -6
Why do we need to hide the truth? If its the coach then he should be held accountable, if it was players then the same punishment. But when we hide it. and it happens again we kind of shrug our shoulders. Only in sports!! exactly!! the whole sports world is looking at this... careers and reputations maybe affected, a whole town and an entire league will be scrutinized, laying blame at this time is bush league...the organization and league requires support. Belly up and wish them luck, the truth will be known soon enuff, it’s not time for a public flogging of coaches or players. L4D this is a business and should be treated as such. if you have someone in the organization who is not performing or not representing the organization professionally you need to address it. in most cases that person is let go or given advise to future conduct. I think that has been done in this situation with both the league and board. should they get support, not from everyone. they are adults and knew well in advance of what they were signing up for. if that was the case both trump and trudeau would be gone.
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Post by Big City Guy on Dec 29, 2018 11:38:45 GMT -6
I don’t agree.. so who helped rebuild this team? Other teams gave players up and he traded most of them.. was it the go fund me people that donated the money that helped rebuild? We all know rebuilding a team is more than the coach. It's the dozens of volunteers that take tickets, sell popcorn and programs, billet players, keep statistics, man the penalty box gate, play music in between plays, do PA announcements, and sit on a board that hires a coach to represent (or misrepresent) the team in the community. Wins and losses were not the big goal for the coach this year. But the fact they've been competitive is just gravy. And I stand by it, Darcy should credit for the team that is on the ice this year, not Oystrick. His Sask list players + 3 players (Clarke, Guenter, Dow) are the magic formula. That simple.
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Post by stars123 on Dec 29, 2018 11:42:51 GMT -6
I don’t agree.. so who helped rebuild this team? Other teams gave players up and he traded most of them.. was it the go fund me people that donated the money that helped rebuild? We all know rebuilding a team is more than the coach. It's the dozens of volunteers that take tickets, sell popcorn and programs, billet players, keep statistics, man the penalty box gate, play music in between plays, do PA announcements, and sit on a board that hires a coach to represent (or misrepresent) the team in the community. Wins and losses were not the big goal for the coach this year. But the fact they've been competitive is just gravy. And I stand by it, Darcy should credit for the team that is on the ice this year, not Oystrick. His Sask list players + 3 players (Clarke, Guenter, Dow) are the magic formula. That simple. Clarke,Dow were acquired in the summer after the tradgedy..
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Post by Big City Guy on Dec 29, 2018 11:46:07 GMT -6
Those players were acquired June 20th, June 21st, and June 27th respectively. Oystrick was hired July 3rd.
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